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Old 09-22-2004, 11:02 PM   #1
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whats the total cost of pressurized co2 system


I was wondering how much it costs to have everthing I need to run pressurized co2? assuming I were to buy everthing new. I also saw a ph guage setup to run the co2 when the ph changed, is this recommened? Thank you.
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Old 09-22-2004, 11:13 PM   #2
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Well you have options. Albany Aquarium has a 5# tank plus JBJ regulator w/solenoid and bubble counter for 200$. An inline reactor can be made for under 20$.

You could also by pieces from different places. You could get a JBJ regulator from AB for 88$ and I found a 5# aluminum tank for 65$ so that puts you at 153 for that setup.

So to make a long answer even longer, 150--200$. Some people will tell you I'm sure that you can get it for less which is possible too.
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Old 09-22-2004, 11:50 PM   #3
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I was wondering how much it costs to have everthing I need to run pressurized co2? assuming I were to buy everthing new. I also saw a ph guage setup to run the co2 when the ph changed, is this recommened? Thank you.
That would depend entirely on whether or not you have a live in significant other, life partner etc.

Standard rule of thump is for every dollar spent on things they do not understand, you'll be needing to spend two dollars on things they don't understand.

At which point my best advice to you is to just give them the checkbook or plastic and adopt the entirely reasonable attitude that the less you know about things you don't understand the better off you'll be.
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Old 09-22-2004, 11:55 PM   #4
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I'm also investigating the same thing...
I hope the other veteran planted tankers will share their experience..
how much, which one, where to buy, etc...

I think I can live with $150-200... but I saw $300-$400 all the times!
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Old 09-22-2004, 11:56 PM   #5
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Here's what my setup cost:
5lb CO2 bottle - $55
MIlwauke Solenoid/Regulator/Bubble Counter - $65
Home made Reactor - $15
Total - $135

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Old 09-23-2004, 12:03 AM   #6
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The biggest variable will be the cylinder. If you can find on locally for cheap, your golden. I got a 15lb for $75 filled. Good deal, but it costs almost half that much to fill it.

A homemade reactor is definately the way to go. Great price, very effective.
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Old 09-23-2004, 12:05 AM   #7
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5 lb. Aluminum Tank ~ $59.00
Dual-guage regulator ~ $36.00
Clippard Needle Valve ~ $22.00
Vortex Reactor ~ $49.00

Total ~ $166.00; everything was brand new.

If I had made my own reactor, I probably could have saved around $30.00 or so.

I find I don't really need all of the automation -- it's really just overkill unless you have really sensitive fish (e.g. Discus, etc.).

Regardless of whether you go automatic or not, going pressurized is really worth the investment!
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Old 09-23-2004, 12:10 AM   #8
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For me...
5lb. CO2 tank filled - $60
Milwaukee regulator with CO2 tubing- $69
Dennerle CO2 check valve - $18
DIY inline reactor - $10

Total $157.

Bigpow, the cheapest you'll get the Milwaukee is from glass-gardens, for $65 (discount to PT members). You'll also need a good checkvalve for the Milwaukee since they don't have one, and those can be around $18 (Dennerle from marinedepot.com). A JBJ from aquatic store is $89 (free shipping) and already has a checkvalve. So looking about the same for either or. CO2 tanks vary locally.

There is an article written somewhere on this forum to do it all for under $100. By this you won't be using a Milwaukee or JBJ, but instead a regular CO2 regulator and a clippard needle valve. For me, I wasn't saving much money that way - I could get the regulator for $40, and the clippard with adapters for $20 = $60 total. All depends on who your clippard dealer is too. I just payed $9 more for the Milwaukee to save the hassle.
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...There is an article written somewhere on this forum to do it all for under $100.
Might this be what you're referring to?

It's a good article -- and that was my starting point when I became interested in investing in pressurized CO2 ... though I don't have a clippard dealer anywhere in town nor any welding supply shops that have tanks that cheap.
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Old 09-23-2004, 12:22 AM   #10
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That's the one. If you can really find all the right sources, its a great way to save money. I'm sure Rex can speak up here since he uses the clippards.
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That would depend entirely on whether or not you have a live in significant other, life partner etc.
That is exactly what I was thinking replying to this earlier. To funny!
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Old 09-23-2004, 01:04 AM   #12
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For most people they are just as well off ordering the Clippard valve from somewhere like AquaBotanic. It comes with the 10-32 to 0.125" adapter that you will need. Unless you are lucky like I am and have a Clippard distributor close to the house you are much better off buying it from a vendor that includes the adapter.

It's possible to do CO2 for under $150 depending on how much the cylinder runs you. If you want automated then it's going to cost another $100 or so. I run three manual systems. Two of them off the same tank. I built my own systems so I could run multiple tanks off of a cylinder and regulator. Besides when I built my systems the great deals on all-in-one units just weren't there. I also build my own reactors and plumb them into the return lines of my cannister filters.
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Old 09-23-2004, 02:28 AM   #13
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If you have a CO2 supplier, like a welding shop, there may be no need to buy a bottle. You put a deposit on their bottle, and just swap the used bottle for a full bottle when you need.

I just don't understand the need to purchase a bottle. Every bottle I have ever gotten from my supplier was painted, clean and had been safety inspected.

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Old 09-23-2004, 02:47 AM   #14
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If you buy a new bottle Mike, in general you get a shiny bright alunimum cylinder with a hydro test good for five years (make sure you ask about the specific date when purchasing one).

At least in my area, you're looking at a $65.00 cash deposit and $6.00 a month rental fee, plus the cost of refills, my tank was $65.00 with shipping. The rentals here are steel, banged up and otherwise downright ugly.
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Pretty much the same here. Rentals are nasty looking, run $7.50 a month for a 20 lb tank and need a $75 deposit. I paid $80 for my nice painted steel bottle. And the cost of getting it refilled is the same either way.
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