60-P : 722 Long Road Crossing

[bsmith]

This tank will not have water in it until at least 4-1-2010, my dealership is changing locations due to Saturn going out of business and a 2 year old 4 million dollar facility not being used!!!. So unlike all of my other tanks where I purchase stuff and just throw it together I will have a bit of time to discuss and plan what I want to do. I am looking for as much advice or ideas as possible so let em rip.

I currently have my Mini-M and wanted to upgrade. That tank will (after the move) be in my sales managers office as a low tech tank.

So here is the breakdown. I will highlight in a different color the items I have not bought and am still deciding on, these are the top choices or the couple im debating.

Tank- ADA 60-P

Filter- Eheim 2215 or 2217

Light- Fishneedit 70w HQI Metal Halide

Substrate- ADA AS Ammazonia Regular/Powder

Plants- UNDECIDED

Fauna- CRS/CBS (might stay in the mini m) Some small fish...

I will have to check again when I go to the new office to snoop and choose my actual office location but I believe that there will be a spot I can keep the tank and equipment. If not I will just have to build one. Its not like I don't have enough time.

I really want to get some manzanita and do a tree with fissidens. I think that would be gorgeous in the contemporary office. Other then that I have no ideas really/

[niptek]

Get eheim 2217 =) With all the plants i have grown in my 60P im still lacking circulation. I'm thinking about adding a power head. Or I can just clean out my filter..

I had a fishneedit 70w MH but it was just too bright for me. My tank is in front of my bed so it was hard to sleep with turned on.

If you need plants let me know, I have all kinds =)

gl with the build.

-Chunk

[jmhart]

I think you'd be really happy with the 2215. Like I said in the other thread, I've got a 2217 on my 60-P with CRS, and for the shrimp to be happy, I have to keep it throttled down pretty far.


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[bsmith]

Yeah you know the old saying its better to have too much... then not enough. I was contemplating using the code on the DRS website to get a XP3 but I just don't like the fact that I wont get the filter substrate with it. A 2217 is about $150 and I think that's fair for what you get. I also think that will do a great job as a reactor for the co2. How do you dissolve your carbon in the tank?

Im super stoked about the MH as this will be my first foray into the MH segment of lighting the planted tank. Ive had/have about every other method and think this is will not only give me the best look light spectrum wise but also keep with the contemporary style im going for.

Originally Posted by niptek

Get eheim 2217 =) With all the plants i have grown in my 60P im still lacking circulation. I'm thinking about adding a power head. Or I can just clean out my filter..

I had a fishneedit 70w MH but it was just too bright for me. My tank is in front of my bed so it was hard to sleep with turned on.

If you need plants let me know, I have all kinds =)

gl with the build.

-Chunk

I hope it is an exciting build!

Originally Posted by jmhart

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[jmhart]

I inject co2 in line before the 2217. Pictures in my thread.

[chase127]

I like the MH, i've been dying to do a MH 60cm but i just cant afford it live my dreams for me?

[garuf]

2217 gets my vote, you can never have too much flow. I'd suggest the new inline diffusers that have popped up on ebay recently. You'd be flying.

[bsmith]

Here are pics of how im doing it right now on the 2 tanks I have running this way.

37g w/xp1 that has an iwaki md-10L inline before the filter to chop up bubbles + increase flow.



Mini-M w/2213. Co2 is injected into intake pipe.



Both work great but I dont plan on using a pre-pump on the 60-P.

Thanks for the ebay link. I believ thats where ill get it.

Originally Posted by jmhart

I inject co2 in line before the 2217. Pictures in my thread.

You can attain your ADA + MH deams vicariously through this thread.

BTW, fishneedit 70w'er is only $109 + shipping.

Originally Posted by chase127

I like the MH, i've been dying to do a MH 60cm but i just cant afford it live my dreams for me?

2217 is the way. If I could fine a pre-owned inline cal aqua diffuser I would probably jump on that to keep the gas out of the filter. Good idea.

Originally Posted by garuf

2217 gets my vote, you can never have too much flow. I'd suggest the new inline diffusers that have popped up on ebay recently. You'd be flying.

[roybot73]

+1 on the 2217

[bsmith]

Well after much thought and research I think im going to have to pass on the HQI MH lighting option. It seemd that the spread will not be optimal at the height I need to keep the intensity where I need it to be for a 70w fixture and in order to get a good spread with a 150w fixture I would have to have the light so high it wold blind people in my office. Im sad but not too sad as I have talked with Jim at Catalina aquariums and he will be building me a specialized 24" 4x24w T5HO fixture with hanging brackets for this tank. I think I will stick with the same Geismann Aquaflora X2 and Midday X2 that I have in my 37g. I will say this though the cost of some 6700k GE starcoats is tempting. Does anyone have any experience with them?

[ldk59]

Mr Smith....

Any updates on this project?

Larry

[benon]

I love shots of tanks from above through the water. Wish there were more looking-inside tank shots. Give us a shot from the side too!

[bsmith]

Originally Posted by ldk59

Mr Smith....

Any updates on this project?

Larry

Funny you ask...

Originally Posted by benon

I love shots of tanks from above through the water. Wish there were more looking-inside tank shots. Give us a shot from the side too!

The pics that are in here are of my mini-m. Here are the first pics of my 60-p, it arrived yesterday!




This is waht I first saw so I was a little scared.

[Heartnet]

Originally Posted by bsmith

Imagine my horror when I saw the USPS guy rolling my 60P in the box down the stairs. Luckily, the packaging inside was good. Where did you order yours?

+1 on the 2217

With a packed filter, I find that the flow from the 2217 is really reduced and barely sufficient for my 60P. And more is always better with filters.

[bsmith]

I just made my mind up on the 2217. It is always better to have more imo.

I ordered the 60-p from adg.