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Old 02-09-2010, 10:39 PM   #1
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Fert purchase and 50 Gal Co2 Injection


2 Part question:

1. I bought Ferts from a local hydroponics store. They gave me Celated trace element that has copper in it. I know that Copper is a no no. Does Flourish Searchem do the same thing as my trace mix?

2. How much DIY Co2 is enough for a 50 Gal long? I have 1 nutrafin tank running into a powerhead that sprays about 1/2 to 2/3 of my tank with Co2 Mist.

Thanks for your time, Appreciate any responses.

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Old 02-10-2010, 12:34 AM   #2
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Flourish Seachem is a trace nutrient mix that will provide micronutrients as well.

Depending on your micronutrient mix, it may still be usable. It depends on how much copper there is. For example, shrimp and plants do need copper, just in minute quantities.

I am also using a chelated iron trace mix purchased from a hydroponics store, and it also has copper in it. I have been dosing it in my RCS tank, and they still seem very happy.

As for your question regarding DIY CO2; I would suggest you switch to pressurized CO2 instead. DIY CO2 will be quite a hassle on a 50g tank. In addition, the amount of money spent buying sugar, etc will eventually accumulate. I would say that you will need at least 2-3 (2L) bottles of DIY CO2 going to actually maintain a reasonable level of CO2.

Don't forget to keep them on a rotating schedule so that CO2 fluctuation is minimized.
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Flourish Seachem is a trace nutrient mix that will provide micronutrients as well.

Depending on your micronutrient mix, it may still be usable. It depends on how much copper there is. For example, shrimp and plants do need copper, just in minute quantities.

I am also using a chelated iron trace mix purchased from a hydroponics store, and it also has copper in it. I have been dosing it in my RCS tank, and they still seem very happy.

As for your question regarding DIY CO2; I would suggest you switch to pressurized CO2 instead. DIY CO2 will be quite a hassle on a 50g tank. In addition, the amount of money spent buying sugar, etc will eventually accumulate. I would say that you will need at least 2-3 (2L) bottles of DIY CO2 going to actually maintain a reasonable level of CO2.

Don't forget to keep them on a rotating schedule so that CO2 fluctuation is minimized.
Do You use the one from Home Grown Hydroponics? Thats the one I have, its # 6 in there six pack. Unfortunately no where does it show exactly how much Copper is in it. So I'll give'r a whirl, in small doses. What type of dosing schedule works?

I figured the Co2 just wasnt cutting it. Your right about the pressurized. I know its time, I'm just taking the plunge slowly. Looking for a decent dual stage and needle valve right now. Any ideas?

I've read a great deal on the subject. Would rather go for quality parts than rush into it. I have a few pounds of sugar and a brand new jar of yeast....So I still have a decent supply.

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Do You use the one from Home Grown Hydroponics? Thats the one I have, its # 6 in there six pack. Unfortunately no where does it show exactly how much Copper is in it. So I'll give'r a whirl, in small doses. What type of dosing schedule works?
I know exactly which one you are talking about. I don't recall what the copper percentage was, but I recall looking it up in the past, and it was quite a bit higher than the rest. I recall someone (perhaps it was me?) expressing concern over this and then posting a topic. Most people reassured that it was OK.

However, as for the dosing schedule, I am currently following EI on my 2.5g planted RCS tank. The shrimp don't seem to mind, and I would imagine they would go before the plants do...

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I figured the Co2 just wasnt cutting it. Your right about the pressurized. I know its time, I'm just taking the plunge slowly. Looking for a decent dual stage and needle valve right now. Any ideas?
The best place to look is on the Swap and Shop forums and/or eBay. If you are patient, you can usually come by some excellent deals.

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I've read a great deal on the subject. Would rather go for quality parts than rush into it.
That was probably my article over on the other forums, right?
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