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Old 02-14-2009, 06:57 AM   #91
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Good additions, fishlvr! I currently have 3 Bluefin Killies in a 4-gallon Finnex tank. They're doing well, but haven't spawned yet (as far as I know).

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Thanks =]. Just trying to point out some natives, since they're easy to find and deserve more appreciation.
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Old 03-07-2009, 06:14 PM   #92
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Do any of these fish do well in a 2.5 gallon?, besides the betta
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Old 04-01-2009, 08:46 PM   #93
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Do any of these fish do well in a 2.5 gallon?, besides the betta
Thats the same question I had
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Old 04-14-2009, 10:45 PM   #94
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Yep, some of them do - but sometimes that's conditional too. Any of these that are schooling or social fish - Nope. Any livebearers or prolific breeders - same thing.

Danios might be worth consideration here, but I'll defer to the experts on that one...
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Old 05-25-2009, 11:50 PM   #95
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Default Excel List of Nanofish Suggestions

A newbie to planted tanks, I wandered looking for nanofish suggestions and tripped on this thread. Although I will continue to await the Web-based Nano Fish List that may be in the works, I grew impatient and began looking for info on the fish suggested in the thread. Eventually realized that I was creating an Excel file on them with their basic data (pH, temp, dH etc.)...its pretty much as done as I will get it and covers all suggestions so far.


UPDATE: Excel list is now on POST #98
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:09 AM   #96
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As far as 2.5 gallons go, I believe that Least Killifish are a good option (not sure of the scientific name).

They might not be vibrant with color, but my friend has 6 in a 2.5g and they are doing fine. Not stressed, exhibiting normal behavior, etc.

I have had a pair (male/female) in my 2.5g for about 2 months now and they've already given me 10+ fry! (And those are only the ones I know about, I'm certain that there are more) I have a lot of plants and mosses from the wild that I put in there, so in mine they just eat micro-tiny bugs and that sort of thing, I never have to feed them (but I'm not suggesting that anyone just throw them in a 2.5g with just, like, a piece of java moss or something) I have a Lot of moss-type plants. The whole bottom is covered with them. That is why, I believe, that they are reproducing so well. They feel like they are in a natural environment. But enough of my ramblings. That's my recommended 2.5g fish.
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Old 06-22-2009, 01:32 AM   #97
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Wow its been a while sence I've looked at this

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A newbie to planted tanks, I wandered looking for nanofish suggestions and tripped on this thread. Although I will continue to await the Web-based Nano Fish List that may be in the works, I grew impatient and began looking for info on the fish suggested in the thread. Eventually realized that I was creating an Excel file on them with their basic data (pH, temp, dH etc.)...its pretty much as done as I will get it and covers all suggestions so far.

Would it be okay to post the chart to this thread, Alphacat? It seems like the natural home as it is derived pretty much 99 percent from the suggestions here...(with just a couple of others I spotted during the hunt for information)...
Well im not Alphacat but I would find it verry helpful and im sure others would too so why not right?

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As far as 2.5 gallons go, I believe that Least Killifish are a good option (not sure of the scientific name).

They might not be vibrant with color, but my friend has 6 in a 2.5g and they are doing fine. Not stressed, exhibiting normal behavior, etc.

I have had a pair (male/female) in my 2.5g for about 2 months now and they've already given me 10+ fry! (And those are only the ones I know about, I'm certain that there are more)
Thanks for the suggestion, they sound great and I can't wait to check 'um out
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Old 09-07-2009, 04:46 AM   #98
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Hello
I finally finished excel file of fish identified in this thread (plus a few others I found on the way). The attached document is a zipfile of an Excel 97-2003 file.

For those looking over the list, remember that the original rule set up by Alphacat for the thread was that fish be 1.8 inches in length or less. Some fish suggested on the thread turned out to be way outside this size, so I did not keep them on the list. A few 'oversized' are still kept on, because of online reports of success in small tanks and/or because in the wild they tend to live in thickly planted ditches or small swampy ponds (so genetically/behaviorally appropriate for nano environment). Quite a few fish met the size requirements, but had mixed info online about whether they would do well in small groups or small tanks: I kept most of these, and tried to note down a few pieces of nano relevant info for each fish.

***Please always research your fish in detail before confining them to nano tank; please always use well circulated, oxygenated, clean water for nano tanks***

Quite a few of the suggestions to the thread appeared to be based on size and not necessarily direct experience. I think it would be great if people going through this list who have personal experience with any of these fish in small tanks would chime in, with a note to the thread, about whether the fish did or did not do well (and how many adults and in what size small tank). By 'doing well' I mean healthy for at least six months, bonus points if healthy with successful breeding or for years.

----For those unable to use microsoft products, the file has been loaded up on Google Docs
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...GZzNXlHcEwwbnc

----For those able to view excel files (list upated 11-2010) the file is in the zip file below.
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Old 09-07-2009, 05:28 AM   #99
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now i want to turn this excel file into an access data base, but then i would have install ms office on my computer in along with Openoffice.org since i don't know how to make good databases with it.
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Old 09-10-2009, 11:44 PM   #100
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Hey fisydaze,
When you have entered 3 min under the min #, does that mean a 3 min is recommend only? I assume that no shoaling would be expected for this fish? thanks d

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Finally finished excel file of fish identified in this thread (plus a few others I found on the way). The attached document is a zipfile of a tab delimited text file: once decompressed, open it in Excel and it should be fine using default settings.

For those looking over the list, remember that the original rule set up by Alphacat for the thread was that fish be 1.8 inches in length or less. Some fish suggested on the thread turned out to be way outside this size, so I did not keep them on the list. A few 'oversized' are still kept on, because of many online reports of success in small tanks and because in the wild they tend to live in thickly planted ditches or small swampy ponds (so genetically/behaviorally appropriate for nano environment). Quite a few fish met the size requirements, but had mixed info online about whether they would do well in small groups or small tanks: I kept most of these, and tried to note down a few pieces of nano relevent info for each fish.

***Please always research your fish in detail before confining them to nano tank; please always use well circulated, oxygenated, clean water for nano tanks***

Quite a few of the suggestions to the thread appeared to be based on size and not necessarily direct experience. I think it would be great if people going through this list who have personal experience with any of these fish in small tanks would chime in, with a note to the thread, about whether the fish did or did not do well (and how many adults and in what size small tank). By 'doing well' I mean healthy for at least six months, bonus points if healthy with successful breeding or for years.
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Old 09-11-2009, 03:59 AM   #101
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I am very impressed with all your work on the list. Thanks very much.

I have had luck with a male/female pair of Black Phantom Tetras and also with a pair of female black Phantom Tetras. They have shorter dorsal fins than the males but more than make up for that with the reddish orange color of several of their smaller fins plus the adipose fin. Unlike some tetras you can keep a pair instead of a school.

PS I keep them at pH 8.0 as they are one of the tetras that thrive in alkaline/basic water.

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Old 09-20-2009, 03:08 PM   #102
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Hey fisydaze,
When you have entered 3 min under the min #, does that mean a 3 min is recommend only? I assume that no shoaling would be expected for this fish? thanks d
Hey Dmastin,
I am not sure which fish you are writing about, but some fish that don't shoal are still more comfortable, show better, come out of hiding, live longer etc. etc. with their own species around. The reccs in the file are from reading thru more than one website usually, and what people noted down in their comments here and there...so a mix of fact-based and opinion-based info. When I write 3 min, I mean that the recommendation is a minimum of three. This doesn't place a limit on the upper numbers (although of course the tank size would need to expand accordingly).

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Unlike some tetras you can keep a pair instead of a school.
PS I keep them at pH 8.0 as they are one of the tetras that thrive in alkaline/basic water.
Hello Ravenmyth,
Thanks for the comment on the file ...Completely started with everyone's reccomendations on this thread, of course.

And also thanks for the first hand info re: the black phantom tetra. What size tank did you have them in?
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Old 09-25-2009, 10:55 PM   #103
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I had a pair in a 5 gal
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Old 10-12-2009, 09:02 PM   #104
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I thought i should clarify a bit as I realized more info would be better as I was just reviewing your list of fish for the nano tank. I have read and have experience of keeping a pair of Black Phantom Tetras rather than a shoal of 5+ as your table suggests. The reading I have done plus my experience of keeping a pair in a 5 gal in good health for over a year supports that conclusion. I still have them now with 2 more in a larger tank.
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Hello Ravenmyth---
Thanks for the additional thoughts...I have edited the chart since your earlier email to show your successes with pairs in 5 gallon tank, but also kept on the chart what was recommended on multiple websites regarding larger groups. This is to help those who are trying to decide what they should try in a small tank. With this info, I hope that they realize that happy nano pairs of black phantom tetra are viable, but possibly nano placement is less common or less optimal for this species. I also updated some of the additional info for this fish: More than one online site does say you could keep a pair of black phantom tetra; but quite a few of those same sites also contradictorily suggested having groups of 6 or more, giving the males space for separate territories, and that the larger groups do show shoaling behavior, so a nano tank might be challenging. Might depend on your individual fish, too, of course....
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