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Old 07-14-2014, 03:13 PM   #1
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Substrate for OEBT's


I have been using a neutral substrate for my OEBT's, but am looking to replace it for something else as I've had minimal success in breeding them. I was wondering what substrates others would recommend to use, I was thinking Aqua Soil Amazonia - have other had success with this for OEBT's, or should I be looking at something else?
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Old 07-14-2014, 04:10 PM   #2
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People do keep them in ADA with success. I guess the real question is what parameters did you have them in before and are you using tap or RO water?
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Old 07-14-2014, 04:35 PM   #3
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i use a combo of tap and r/o, plus i use Bee Shrimp Mineral GH+ to get the params where I need them. Initially they bred just fine, but has come to a standstill over the last 7 months.
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What's your gh? tds? Temps?
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gh is 6, tds is 170, temps between 22-24c
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Me personally, I would raise gh to 8, tds to 220-260 and keep temps below 70f. Did the babies survive from previous breeding?
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Ya some did initially, not a real high rate, but they did, and fems were constantly berried - not anymore though.

How do you raise your TDS without having the gh and kh jump?


Also, does a substrate like aqua soil not buffer TDS down to about 80 or so?

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I would shoot for the higher gh and tds.. What is your tap parameters? Oebt seem to need higher gh and tds than crystals..
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If you use ada you will need something to counter act the buffering. Personally i use seiryu stone but crushed coral works also.
I keep my oebt and royals in ph7.4 kh3-4 gh7-8 and tds 200-220. Your tds should come in line once you raise gh+kh. For water changes i do 100% rodi remineralized with gh+ to gh5 kh0 tds around 110 and then use mosura tds up to raise tds to around 150-170 depending on tds of tank and how much i want to drop it. Has been working great for me for a few years now.
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If you use ada you will need something to counter act the buffering. Personally i use seiryu stone but crushed coral works also.
I keep my oebt and royals in ph7.4 kh3-4 gh7-8 and tds 200-220. Your tds should come in line once you raise gh+kh. For water changes i do 100% rodi remineralized with gh+ to gh5 kh0 tds around 110 and then use mosura tds up to raise tds to around 150-170 depending on tds of tank and how much i want to drop it. Has been working great for me for a few years now.

Would the ada buffering capacity not superscede the gh+ or mosura tds up?

DUKENDABEARS - tap water params are through the roof here, PH - well over 8, gh is something like 16 (if i remember right when I last tested it awhile back) and kh is like 9.
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In theory a 50/50 tap ro split should give you gh 8 kh 4 ish.. Just your ph would be off at that point.
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In theory a 50/50 tap ro split should give you gh 8 kh 4 ish.. Just your ph would be off at that point.
Any idea where I can get Mosura tds up from that will ship to Canada? Up here I could only find the Mosura site, which charges $17 for shipping.
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here

http://www.shrimpfever.com/shop/shri...ra-tds-up-50g/
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