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Old 05-10-2014, 04:06 PM   #31
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i have an rimless aquarium, so i need to top it off with water everyday. so i mix dry ferts with water then add it to the aquarium.
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Old 05-10-2014, 06:07 PM   #32
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Here is how I do it.. I have a small jar that I had cleaned out and keep under my tank.
I put the ferts into the jar and then fill it with aquarium water.

I think put the it on.. and shake it gently until the ferts are as dissolved as I can get them.. then I just pour back into the tank.

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Old 05-10-2014, 07:08 PM   #33
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i guess every one has their own ways of measuring out the ferts and dosing ways, SO what i am going to do is do what i know and see what happens lol
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:19 PM   #34
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i guess every one has their own ways of measuring out the ferts and dosing ways, SO what i am going to do is do what i know and see what happens lol
lol, have you even figured out what that is yet? Didn't know if you got your amounts down yet or not?
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Old 05-10-2014, 09:20 PM   #35
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ok so i have started my mixing and let me know if this is EI dosing worthy cause i just put them together xD


Micro - 500ml bottle
Bottle 1: Dosing 4ml 3x a week for 10g of water
KNO3 - 11-1/8 tsp
Kh2po4 - 1-1/2 tsp


Bottle 2: Dosing 6ml 3x a week for 10g of water
K2so4 - 8-1/4 tsp



Macro - 500ml bottle
Bottle 1: Dosing 4ml 3x a week for 10g of water
CSM+B - 8-1/2 tsp
Iron 10% - 2 tsp




so did i mix everything correctly?

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Old 05-11-2014, 06:51 PM   #36
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ok so i have started my mixing and let me know if this is EI dosing worthy cause i just put them together xD


Micro - 500ml bottle
Bottle 1: Dosing 4ml 3x a week for 10g of water
KNO3 - 11-1/8 tsp
Kh2po4 - 1-1/2 tsp


Bottle 2: Dosing 6ml 3x a week for 10g of water
K2so4 - 8-1/4 tsp



Macro - 500ml bottle
Bottle 1: Dosing 4ml 3x a week for 10g of water
CSM+B - 8-1/2 tsp
Iron 10% - 2 tsp




so did i mix everything correctly?
You probably don't need to use K2SO4. The KNO3 and KH2PO4 will provide 5.3ppm of potassium. This is usually enough. If you want the full EI dose (7.5ppm) just add enough to account for the difference of 2.2ppm. The K2SO4 solution would be 3 1/2 tsp. for 2.2 ppm. However, I have never seen it be necessary.

You also probably do not need that much Plantex if using DTPA iron. You want to target a TOTAL iron of 0.5ppm per dose. At a ratio of 2 parts Plantex to 1 part DTPA. That will be...

Plantex 5 1/2 teaspoons (0.333ppm)
DTPA 10% Iron 2 teaspoons (0.17ppm)

To calculate for those levels in my calculator change the concentration edit box to those levels and click calculate.

Otherwise, everything looks good other than reversing the macro and micro. Micro is the Plantex & iron mix
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is it bad that i already have this mixed? will it cost any problems for me?
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is it bad that i already have this mixed? will it cost any problems for me?
Not at all! No worries. It's just a little more than necessary. You can always use 3ml for the micros if it worries you. However, it shouldn't cause any problems.
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well for the micro there is 2 bottles... 1 is a po4 and no3 mix together and the 2nd bottle is just so4 alone... so the bottle 1 i dose 4ml and for the bottle 2 i dose 6ml



whats should the dosing amount be?
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well for the micro there is 2 bottles... 1 is a po4 and no3 mix together and the 2nd bottle is just so4 alone... so the bottle 1 i dose 4ml and for the bottle 2 i dose 6ml



whats should the dosing amount be?
Your solutions are fine. You don't even need bottle 2 (K2SO4). However, if you want to add a little extra just use 2ml per dose instead of 6ml. That will account for the missing potassium. Remember the other nutrients, primarily KNO3, provide sufficient potassium.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:43 PM   #41
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ok so i should only use 2ml instead of the 6.... but how come the calculator says to use that amount i mix for 6ml?
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ok so i should only use 2ml instead of the 6.... but how come the calculator says to use that amount i mix for 6ml?
Because you are targeting for the total EI dose of potassium. KNO3 provides 60% of the total potassium needed. That is something I want to address in the calculator. Make a running total that sums all the elements so others won't become confused. I know it's confusing but that's how it works. Other nutrients add more than one element. We have to account for those. Does this make sense?
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Old 05-11-2014, 10:29 PM   #43
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it does but what are the elements we need to target for EI dosing per dose 3x a week?


i think its also a good idea when selecting the dosing method for EI that you show a list of what elements it needs to reach for so people like me knwo what we should aim for when mixing
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Old 05-12-2014, 04:41 AM   #44
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Hi Bryanmc1988,

I mix my CSM+B solution adding three (3) tablespoons of CSM+B in 500 ml of water. I dose 1 ml of solution per 10 gallons once a week.
Curious, why do you dose your CSM+B this way? I do it dry with all my other ferts. Is this not recommended?
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Old 05-12-2014, 07:33 AM   #45
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I do it with a spoon
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