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Old 04-30-2014, 02:23 AM   #1
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am I getting this right? 10 gal med-hi tech?



As this is my first post, I apologize in advance for any repetition of older threads.
Ive had a lil 10 gallon running for a few years now but most of it was spent as a simple fish tank to keep a quarantined cat company. Barbs, Sae,dwarf frogs and a raph cat. Ive since decided to transform it into a grass tank since grass is my profession. Im here to tell you that lawn grass (turf) is FAR easier to master than my dwarf hairgrass tank.
Equipment:
Finnex planted plus 20" and fugeray 12"
EDITiy co2 using (2) 1 liters, with counter into internal 80gph pump
Nat geo hob 100gph
100watt fluval heater
Flourite black substrate with black aquasoil top
Seachem flourish
Seachem excel

4 small swords
Ludwigia
Cabomba green and red
Dwarf sag
Marsilea quad
2 sunset hygro
3 types floaters
Occupants:
6 otos with atleast 10-15 fry
1 Striped raphael catfish that I like too much.
3 nerites. 1 olive, 2 zebra
Parameters: Have not checked in m
I of course jumped in head first and bought dhg from petsmart with some black fluorite went home and just did the damn thing. When the tank was filled it looked like every other happy hairgrass started tank. I then had a huge hob thats older than dirt, a malfunctioning heater and a single "Plant" t8 14watt. Needless to say the Dhg began looking sad soon. Temp reached 86f, so that got fixed. Did hours of reading and began to make purchases; some good some not.
I until recently had an internal sponge filter powerhead 158gph that I felt was causing a strong current and not removing plant matter but holding it in place. I replaced it with a small 100gph hob but im still not happy with the surface agitation.
6/8 after WC and trim
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Old 04-30-2014, 03:21 AM   #2
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Welcome to TPT!

Pics would probably help most, but if you got your DHG from a big box store, most likely it was grown emersed and now is going through a major meltdown as it transitions to submerged growth.

I've found dosing Excel to be a major help in keeping algae in check while plants go through this process.

Most people switch to canister filters when they start running CO2 on their tanks to avoid outgassing CO2, but HOB filters can work too as long as they don't have biowheels and you're good about keeping the water levels high enough to avoid surface agitation. AquaClears are a popular choice.
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Old 05-03-2014, 04:39 PM   #3
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Angry pictures?

Did it work?
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Old 05-03-2014, 04:43 PM   #4
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Default good.

The first pic is the day after dhg purchase with all old equip. Second is a from mid/late April.
Third is the two lights and Hob.

Actually seeing pearling from the dhg. Not a ton but easily noticed.
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Old 05-04-2014, 01:29 AM   #5
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Cool heeeeeres Nigel!

My dinner plate sized soft shell turtle that finally dug himself out of the sand. Nothing survives with this guy. He's eaten a 5in Sae, 6in+ pleco, numerous Barbs and destroyed every rock scape ive set up for him. My personal loch ness monster! Just had to show him off!
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Could you get some better close-ups of your plants?
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Only worried about the Dhg. Im sure it was grown emersed and is now looking greener with better dispersed co2. I have been slowly capping it with more black sand as the otos have been cleaning and uprooting alittle each night the past week. 90% of the BA is gone and just a little GA down by the substrate.
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I don't think it looks too bad. Definitely coverting.

It will carpet more quickly if you break up the clumps and spread them around. Painstaking work, tweezers are incredibly helpful.

Like outdoor lawn grass, DHG will also spread more quickly if you "mow" it regularly.
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These were all taken the same day (4/19). I have trimmed everything down a little since but most of it remains just over 1" but the group I got from a mom and pop lfs grows much taller quicker. Is probably HG not DHG.

Any ideas on taller plants that I could replace the 2 non aquatics with? I wanted to order some crystalwort for "bushes" and a moss of some type to attach to the driftwood.
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Crypts would be a good choice.
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New photo today. Still trying to find some missing pieces; new rocks, better co2 diffusion and back ground plants to hide Mr. Cow...
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Default new rocks and nerites...

Well I found some perty rocks today at the local aviariam. Wish I could fill in behind the rocks but that's where my "hidden" co2/circulation pump is located until I get a canister and or build the rimless tank I haved planned. Any suggestions on placements? All lfs plants look worse off than my own so im stuck with dang mondo grass for a bit as Mr. Cow likes hiding under it.

I guess thats why they call it "my" tank journal....
Is this thing on?
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Question dhg looking rough

Since adding the new rocks and 2 small water changes my dwarf hairgrass has darkened, grown algae or both. However, they are covered in bubbles/pearling....
One of my Nerites is either dieing or pouting as it hasn't moved in 2 days but its door is still intact with no smell nor "hanging out" sooo I dunno. All the otos seem happy and Mr.Cow, the Raphael Cat is fat and chillin in his nook by the heater (which is not active as their room stays 75f.

Just an update for myself obviously. ..
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That photo of your turtle.. looks like its doing some sorta sexy dance and giving a "heeeey baaaby" kinda look" quite amusing, shame its so anti.. anything lol I have a 11+" leopard sailfin pleco that's about as bad (but doesn't eat fish thankfully... yet) but he won't let any plants live in hsi tank he eats them all.. so solution: make a 'garden' aka aquaponic system above the tank that canister water goes through! "HAHA CANT REACH THOSE PLANTS!" *ahem*
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