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Old 04-13-2014, 05:24 AM   #211
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My first post here.. And I'm looking to re-do my current aquarium to a planted tank. And of course I have 3 bags of eco-complete already bought. However I stumbled upon this thread and guess what? I just ordered 5 bags from "that pet place". Now that I have burned a hole in my pocket I figured this would be a great time to say... thanks! And say HI. I'm a sucker for good reviews.

Looking forward to posting my step by step progress. This is so new for me and I am very excited..
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Old 04-13-2014, 01:05 PM   #212
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Good luck post your results
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Old 04-14-2014, 07:18 PM   #213
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got mine at that fish place
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Old 04-14-2014, 08:13 PM   #214
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got mine at that fish place
Yeah they are out of stock right now unfortunately and I need it for a tank build next week. May have to stick with Eco-Complete this time around.
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Old 04-14-2014, 11:00 PM   #215
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Wow, people are jumping on this bandwagon LOL.

Other than the color, what is the difference between ActiveFlora and say some other brand with a layer of laterite and root tabs first? Is this just about the color and size?

it's funny, I have seen that Fantasy Bowl site before but stayed away because can't get it local and it advertises it simply as decorative.
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Old 04-15-2014, 11:55 PM   #216
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Wow, people are jumping on this bandwagon LOL.

Other than the color, what is the difference between ActiveFlora and say some other brand with a layer of laterite and root tabs first? Is this just about the color and size?

it's funny, I have seen that Fantasy Bowl site before but stayed away because can't get it local and it advertises it simply as decorative.
In the end, they're all just rocks. The main differences to me is color, consistency, and weight.

The color of the black Activ-Flora is simply fantastic. Of course, you can also get great deep black with a good black sand, but the AF gives a different look. Sand is a PITA is some ways (although great in others). I prefer AF.

Consistency is fairly unique to AF, compared to anything else I've personally seen. Much smaller particles than Eco Complete or actual "gravel" of the more common variety... but not so small as sand, or even the large grain sands.

Weight is good. Despite the small particle size, the particles are much heavier than Eco Complete and others.

Weight and consistency combine to determine how easy it is to plant in. AF strikes an excellent balance, IMO, between too fine and too large, and it's not too light (like Eco), all of which helps make it great for planting in.
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How would you compare it in consistency to eco complete fine grade? That's what I use now and I think from pictures it looks very similar.

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Old 04-16-2014, 12:01 AM   #218
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How would you compare it in consistency to eco complete fine grade? That's what I use now and I think from pictures it looks very similar.
I actually haven't seen fine grade Eco yet, in person. If it's just like normal Eco but smaller particles (my suspicion), I would think the weight issue would be worse, if anything.

If it's heavier than normal Eco, then it's probably comparable. Except perhaps from a color standpoint. (although again, I have yet to see fine grade Eco in person)
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I actually haven't seen fine grade Eco yet, in person. If it's just like normal Eco but smaller particles (my suspicion), I would think the weight issue would be worse, if anything.

If it's heavier than normal Eco, then it's probably comparable. Except perhaps from a color standpoint. (although again, I have yet to see fine grade Eco in person)
Cool thanks. It is just smaller much like sand but with some larger reddish pieces mixed in. I haven't had any weight issues all my plants stay in. I hoped to try activ flora this time but with it sold out everywhere I guess next time I'll try.

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Old 04-16-2014, 11:41 PM   #220
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What I wanna see is a battle of Miracle Gro OGPM vs Activ Flora black. Now I know the dirt would probably whoop Activ's a$$, but still I'd wanna see how it fares against the dirt giant. Oh, and a sand or gravel substrate as a control, if anyone has the stuff to do this please make it happen :P.

I just have the one 180litre tank heavily planted and already setup, it's gone through three different substrates over the years. Now running JBL Aquabasis plus with Manado as a cap, but after reading this thread I WANT Activ Flora!! Just don't know where to start looking for it :-/.
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What I wanna see is a battle of Miracle Gro OGPM vs Activ Flora black..
Apples to oranges
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Old 04-17-2014, 08:14 AM   #222
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Apples to oranges
I agree, you can't compare the two as they are completely different things. No doubt dirt will grow better than any inert substrate. Personally I would never use dirt for the simple fact that you can't rescape or pull plants without potential hazards. I saw/heard first hand of a friends gorgeous show tank's cap getting broken and lost everything within a day and for that simple fact I stick to inert substrates with root tabs. I personally feel Activ-Flora is as good as it gets for an inert substrate. It's the no fuss, no mess, no decomposing, easy to plant, heavy weight, all around great substrate I've always wanted. It's to me become a fail safe substrate that I know I will have amazing success with everytime with great ease.
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Old 04-17-2014, 08:45 PM   #223
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Anybody know if there is a grain size difference between the Black or Red Floracor versus the light colored Floralite?

The Floralite seems smaller from the picture but can't be sure.
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Old 04-17-2014, 09:50 PM   #224
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I will stick with FloraMax. I went with it because I felt it was blacker than EcoComplete and jsut as good.

I would give ActivFlora a chance if I could find it locally. I almost want to say a small true LFS here might have ActivFlora, if they do, I will let people know so maybe he can ship some out, since it seems to be hard to find.
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Old 04-24-2014, 05:57 PM   #225
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I'm with FishStix, this is becoming ridiculous. I place an order using Paypal and that was canceled days later. Did it again and same outcome. I called and they told me that Paypal will automatically cancel the purchase if the item has not shipped in 6 days. So I placed an order over the phone using my CC. So it has been WEEKS waiting.

On the bright side, I look at it as gaining self control for when I start a Dry start method. I want to hold out for at least 6 weeks before flooding. I'm hoping for a nice HC carpet.
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