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Old 04-14-2014, 05:31 AM   #1
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Post number two!

I just set up a tank for my betta (just posted that tank right before this one), but it's not my first planted tank. I had a few before, but they have been taken down and most things now moved into this bad boy. I found this tank on craigslist and am quite happy with it. The tank fits perfectly in a corner of my room (go figure!).

This tank will soon become more high-tech. I hope I'm not getting over my head here...

This first picture is the tank setup, day one, about half a month ago.



I had the plants in a 20 gallon and moved them into this one. Substrate is Eco-Complete in the back, down to sand in the front. Went for kinda the beachy feel. Picked up the rocks at my LFS, I liked the ones that had the striations in them with the lights and darks and tried to kind of match them up as if there was a natural erosion between them. I initially wanted a full cliff face but couldn't find the right rocks locally, so I settled on this scape.

I have two lights, small Finnex white light and a slightly larger Finnex Planted+ placed on the back and front, repectively. I use Flourish and Flourish Excel to keep things growing, though many of these plants are basically weeds anyway, I'm looking at you wisteria and water lettuce.

BOOOOOOOM, things have grown tremendously! This picture was taken yesterday, 2 and a half weeks after setting it up.



It's already about time for a trim! I'm holding off though. I ordered a much nicer LED from Build my LED and have a CO2 tank and system ready to go once I get the new light. The LED should be delivered Tuesday so I'll trim things in a few days and get the CO2 set up. I'm pretty excited for this! I want to get some plants to go on the interface between the Eco and sand, so once I get things set up, new plants will be purchased! Any suggestions will be appreciated. I've been considering adding some glosso, looks nice I think.

Oh, current inhabitants: 12 rummy nose tetras, 5 sterbei corys, 1 opaline gourami female, 3 zebra nerites, and some of them pesky pond snails that I fish out whenever I can in attempt to keep their population down.

I haven't done much upkeep other than a water change each week. I've been letting the tank mature on it's own mostly undisturbed otherwise. Haven't noticed any algae yet, knock on wood. I'll have to clear some of the dead/dying plant matter soon though, it's looking a little bit of a mess.

Ok, that's enough. Long post and I'll keep things updated as I can with the new equipment and the trimmed plants.

Any advice, suggestions, or questions are welcomed and appreciated! I'm very new to the hobby so I'm bound to screw some things up!

Thanks for looking!
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Old 04-28-2014, 03:29 AM   #2
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Well unfortunately no one had any comments...

I'll update this post anyway.

Got my new LED and CO2 setup rolling. Also decided to redo part of the scape. And finally I have begun NPK and Fe dosing in addition to the usual Flourish.

Here is the top and below the tank. The first is the Dutch planted from Build My LED, and the back is a Finnex Planted+. I'm running an oversized canister filter, the Rena XP2 rated for up to 75 gallons. I picked up the CO2 setup on CL for cheap cheap cheap, which was awesome. Just have a basic ceramic disc diffuser with a powerhead to push the microbubbles around the tank.







Here is a shot of the tank, I haven't finished rearranging plants yet, just lost steam tonight and I think the fish are tired of all the commotion.



I removed the sand in the front, I decided I don't really like that it takes up so much of the planting space in the tank. Scooping all the sand out was a bit of a chore, I don't recommend doing that while a tank is running, definitely clouded up the water. Still a little cloudy, but the filter is taking care of that.

Going to try and carpet some HC around the front of the tank. I will put in some plastic dividers to try and keep it from spreading too much, assuming it grows.

Also picked up some red ludwigia, I want to replace the wisteria. It just overgrows everything and once it gets all "rooty" on the bottom, I think it looks unsightly. I got most of it out, but left a little. I may get rid of that too. Considering getting some Val to put in for the nice wavy effect but couldn't find any today.

And more importantly, I picked up some cardinal tetras! I've had my eye out for some healthy looking ones and finally found some! The picture is a bit blurry, but I love the way they look IRL.



Alrighty, reckon I'll be done with this post. Thanks for looking.
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Old 07-12-2014, 09:01 PM   #3
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Hi everyone,

It's been a while now since I updated this, but I thought I'd post a few more pictures. The tank has really been through a lot in the past few months. Planting, planting, more planting, disaster, redo, planting, planting...

Here is one about a month from the last post.


I had switched to an inline diffuser.

Fast forward another week...


Fast forward another 2 weeks or so... I got a monster ray and was seeing what it did for the colors. Plants were long due for a trimming.


And then came the melt.... Disaster struck and I lost about all the fish and all the plants...

Here's the tank after buying a bunch more plants and some wood.


Fast forward 2 weeks. Added a black backing, looks better. Plants are really growing in again. Added some cardinal tetra, amano shrimp, and otos. You can see the wood is growing some interesting things on it... oh, and some java moss, haha.


And finally here it stands as of yesterday. Most of the white fuzz is gone now and I'm getting the tank more to where I'd like it to be for what it is. Removed the swords, they were just taking over the tank. Got some monte carlo I want to try in place of the dhg. Moving the dhg over in front of the repens maybe... Still haven't decided if I'm going to change out the rocks or not.


Any suggestions are always welcome and thanks for looking!



-Below are the juicy details-

40 gallon corner (I think it's technically 36 but I'm an optimist)
Rena XP2 filter with spraybar attachment
Jager 75W heater
Pressurized CO2 with inline diffuser
Additional powerhead cause getting flow right in this tank is a pita...
Lighting is two 6500K dutch planted LEDs from BML (one 24 inch on the front and one 18 inch on the back) The front is on tank mounts so about 3 inches from water, dimmed to 75%. The back one is suspended about 10 inches above water and full power.

EI dose with dry ferts, NPK 3x a week and CSM+B every other day, 40-50% water change a week.

Flora: (more or less in order of back to front)
ludwigia sp rubin
water wisteria
mini myriophyllum
staurogyne bihar
limnophila repens
hemianthus umbrosum (giant baby tears?)
lobelia cardinalis
hygrophila corymbosa compacta
hygrophila araguaia
a couple different anubias (a few nana petite and another I'm not sure of)
blyxa japonica
staurogyne repens
eleocharis parvula (I believe so, anyway, sold as generic dwarf hair grass)
fissides fontanus
java moss

Fauna:
about a dozen or so cardinal tetras
same number of otos
about 6 amanos
a few bladder snails...
looking to add some german blue rams, I think
Maybe some more amanos and/or other kind of tetra
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Old 07-12-2014, 09:27 PM   #4
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tanks looking nice

I think you might want some of your stem plant species groupings to fill out a little more but its going places for sure
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I'm fairly convinced this tank is cursed...

First we have the H2O2 overdose, my mistake.

Now I've been having issues with a CO2 regulator since the weekend. I was fiddling with it yesterday and there was barely any flow no matter how much I adjusted the needle valve. The outflow pressure was also fluctuating by 10 or 15 psi so just all sorts of problems. I barely had the needle valve open last night but the working pressure was initially set to 55 psi (still with the flow problems). I didn't think anything of it this morning before the CO2 clicked on, but apparently the problem corrected itself...

Cause what do I come home to after work just now? Gassed fish. Excellent. I can't find all the cardinals, but there were about half of them at the surface along with most of the snails (bladder, not an intentional addition, haha). I can spot 3 amano shrimp on their backs with their legs twitching, they also look slightly blue in color. Some of the cardinals are clearly dead as they're just belly up among the plants.

I did about a 30% water change and moved my spraybar up so it's spraying along the surface.

I just can't even handle this tank and all its problems right now. Very frustrated. I just emailed the regulator manufacturer earlier today to find out what's going on. (I don't think it's water in the regulator as I have two check valves in place)

If anyone knows a better way to revive my animals, let me know. I'm not keeping my hopes up for the amanos that are twitching, but there is for sure one that seems fine and most of the cardinals seem to be springing back to life. For now I'll just wait and see.
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Old 07-25-2014, 01:43 PM   #6
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I'm fairly convinced this tank is cursed...

First we have the H2O2 overdose, my mistake.

Now I've been having issues with a CO2 regulator since the weekend. I was fiddling with it yesterday and there was barely any flow no matter how much I adjusted the needle valve. The outflow pressure was also fluctuating by 10 or 15 psi so just all sorts of problems. I barely had the needle valve open last night but the working pressure was initially set to 55 psi (still with the flow problems). I didn't think anything of it this morning before the CO2 clicked on, but apparently the problem corrected itself...

Cause what do I come home to after work just now? Gassed fish. Excellent. I can't find all the cardinals, but there were about half of them at the surface along with most of the snails (bladder, not an intentional addition, haha). I can spot 3 amano shrimp on their backs with their legs twitching, they also look slightly blue in color. Some of the cardinals are clearly dead as they're just belly up among the plants.

I did about a 30% water change and moved my spraybar up so it's spraying along the surface.

I just can't even handle this tank and all its problems right now. Very frustrated. I just emailed the regulator manufacturer earlier today to find out what's going on. (I don't think it's water in the regulator as I have two check valves in place)

If anyone knows a better way to revive my animals, let me know. I'm not keeping my hopes up for the amanos that are twitching, but there is for sure one that seems fine and most of the cardinals seem to be springing back to life. For now I'll just wait and see.
Could it have been EOTD (end of tank dump)? When was the last time you filled the CO2 tank?
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Could it have been EOTD (end of tank dump)? When was the last time you filled the CO2 tank?
Nah, I just got it filled over the weekend. It seems like this is a problem when I first hook up the regulator. The last time I filled the cylinder I had the fluctuating pressure thing, but that went away within a day. This recent issue with the flow/pressure stuff has been going on since Saturday.

Earlier in the week my drop checker has been blue the whole time cause the flow wouldn't keep up, then yesterday it did the opposite...
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