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Old 03-26-2004, 01:31 PM   #1
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need your comments.

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my plants: anubias congensis, anubias barteri, anubias minima, dwarf java fern, java moss, windel0v, dwarf vallesneria

my fish: discus, neolam brichardi, panda cory, butterfly pleco, agamyxsis


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Old 03-26-2004, 02:07 PM   #2
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great discus,

how about taking your plants out of the pots, putting in a substrate, and going from there.

Unless you want to keep your discus in a bare bottom tank. If so, then the val won't be too happy.
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Old 03-26-2004, 02:31 PM   #3
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how about taking your plants out of the pots, putting in a substrate, and going from there.

Unless you want to keep your discus in a bare bottom tank. If so, then the val won't be too happy.
i agree. it looks pretty bare without any substrate. is there a reason you wanted to have a tank without any substrate?
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Old 03-27-2004, 10:04 AM   #4
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is there a reason you wanted to have a tank without any substrate?
My guess would be for breeding, its very common to keep potted plants in breeding tanks, the plants are great for water quality and the absence of substrate keeps the wigglers from being trapped and dying.
Your plants look healthy and the fish are very nice.
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Old 03-28-2004, 04:39 AM   #5
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If it's for breeding, why is there an angel there?
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Old 03-28-2004, 06:22 AM   #6
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Man, great discus!!
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Old 03-31-2004, 07:48 AM   #7
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thanx for the great reply.

bare bottom, for easy cleaning. another is for breeding.

the angel is not intended, i used it for testing my water before i put those discus.

i'm also planning to put a substrate, but still in the considering stage.

my next plan is to put some corkscrew val in pot again, some more anubias like coffefolia and gracilis.

i notice my minima has some leaves turning yellow and new leaves are small compare to other, any suggestion?

lucky i guess but my minima have 4 starting to grow rhizome from base.
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Old 04-01-2004, 12:43 AM   #8
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update:

i have now the anubias coffeefolia, gracilis and barteri broadleaf. i'll set it up later.
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Old 04-01-2004, 12:47 AM   #9
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my fish: discus, neolam brichardi, panda cory, butterfly pleco, agamyxsis


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What is the tank temperature with the discus and the plants? How long have the discus been in the tank?
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well philippines is sort of hot country, it's around 30degres usually.

they are about 6months aready in that tank.
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Old 04-01-2004, 05:58 PM   #11
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i agree. it looks pretty bare without any substrate. is there a reason you wanted to have a tank without any substrate?
OK ... welcome to the world of Discus. Discus Keepers are some of the most intense and finicky hobbyists around. There is a prevalent school of thought that Discus can/should NOT be kept in anything other than a bare tank. In fact, there have been many intense cyber-discussions on this topic. The reason given is that Discus require pristiene conditions (daily water changes, syphoning, wipe down of tanks ... ), and gravel promotes dirty conditions which traps detrus and promotes bacteria and other stuff ...

The fact of the matter is that quite a few keepers feel there shouldn't be anything other than discus in a tank ... plants and other fish just take away from the discus.

I've bred discus for nearly 15 years, and I'm of the school of thought that says healthy discus will do just fine in a natural aquarium. In fact, there are many attributes about natural planted tanks that should promote healthy discus ...

Hope this give you a bit of a perspective regarding Discus opinions ...
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thanx for the info
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