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Old 03-16-2014, 08:33 PM   #31
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I know that killing BGA with EM has been well documented before, I have done it a few times myself but I figured I would show a bit of the differences. I think I am at the 4 day point, I have done no water changes or anything. Dosing two packets per day.

On another note, I am thinking about swapping out the carpet. I was hoping that the E. tenellus would grow shorter in less light but it is seemingly growing the same height if not taller. Opposite of my experience in my low light nano. Not sure what I am going to do, I am doubting I have enough light for HC, I have never had luck with Glosso, and though I like DHG belem, I don't know if it will be the right look. Another option is HM, the problem is that it looks really bad for about a week after you trim. Can shape it in cool ways though.

Here it is in my old 29 gallon:




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Old 03-16-2014, 10:35 PM   #32
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Looks a ton better.

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Old 03-17-2014, 04:08 AM   #33
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Looks a ton better.

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Yeah, the BGA really took off once I added CO2. Even at a teal green on my drop checker, it just exploded.

So, I tried to find some plants today. I went in search for Ludwigia glandulosa but no luck. I should have just gone to Albany on my way home but I was tired. My friend was looking for corals so I didn't go to my spot.

I think Ludwigia glandulosa on the left side corner, HM or whatever foreground I choose, and some hygrophila compacta or similar to fill out the middle left and I may be pretty much done.

I also have the RGB LED's from the last try if anyone remembers. My light was too high then to mount them over the tank and have any noticeable effect. Now I can mount them above and get a cool effect but need to find a way to make the look good.
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Old 03-17-2014, 05:32 AM   #34
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29 gallon is a beautiful! I think your low tech is coming along too, still dosing the same?
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Old 03-17-2014, 05:54 AM   #35
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29 gallon is a beautiful! I think your low tech is coming along too, still dosing the same?
Thanks, that was my first tank. I feel like I shot myself in the foot first try because that came out so well and was easy.

I am not dosing the same as my 29 on this, I am dosing the same as I have since I went low tech on this tank which is about one day of EI per 2 weeks.

On that note, just did a kind of major trim and moved a few things around. I was going to let this go really "jungly" before a trim but after looking at my 29 journal, I am remembering how I got things to look a certain way.

I am now thinking about adding fish. I need to contact Hydro to see if they will replace my failed inline. I don't have a box or receipt so who knows what will happen. I want another but I am thinking about really simplifying this and taking out my heater, and my UV. Just a filter and lily's may be my next thing, throw a in tank in when need be.
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Old 03-17-2014, 06:00 AM   #36
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Holy crap that 29 is hella lush. It's awesome.
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Old 03-17-2014, 06:23 AM   #37
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I just put pictures of my old 29 gallon to make myself feel like I know something about this hobby haha. My and my mentor (OVT) talked about how it lacks any mid ground, one thing I really want to add in the 60P. One thing about that tank, I was not only eager to succeed, I also could baby sit it. Though I didn't have major problems until the end (2+ years after I started it), I didn't have the responsibility I have now, one reason I am not trying to go too far.

One thing I just noticed that is meaningful to me. Some people on the board, who do really well, will attribute every single problem to CO2. I see my drop check not in the yellow, which has negatively affected my experience with fish, and realize, CO2 just may be something I need to reconsider. I am liking my results at a low level, maybe just up it to a reasonable level and adjust everything around it, rather than get the highest level I possibly can. Sorry, had a few, thinking out loud.


I just emailed Hydor, hoping they replace my heater under warranty. Only reason they may not is I have absolutely no record of purchase, which is reasonable on their side. Don't even have the box. Once I get an idea of that, I have decided to add fish, either way. I have a heaters and I can disguise an in tank, there were two in my 29.
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Old 03-18-2014, 02:23 AM   #38
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I had a slow day today, decided to clean up a bit. I am really trying to figure out exactly where to go, as soon as I get back into this, I always want to change things around. I have to send my heater out to Hydor so I decided, I am going to de-tech my tank fully. I want to get rid of my insanely long inline setup. I am going to ditch the heater and my UV for now.

On one side, it will be high tech/high end...ADA, lily's, Eheim, CO2, Aquasoil. On the flipside, it will be low tech, low end, low light, heater less, low ferts, etc. I have talked about doing something like this for awhile. I am hoping to have little maintenance in the tank, but also with the filter, short hoses, easy disconnection, etc.


I also feel like more people should post up post trim pictures. My tank got a serious hair cut the other day. I am hoping this is where it starts to get manicured.

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Old 03-18-2014, 02:28 AM   #39
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Have you solved your surface scum issue?
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Have you solved your surface scum issue?
Yup, actually, did a light spray of H2O2, but I was concerned since I was dosing EM. Even that one little spray has cured the whole thing, at least for the time being.

Funny enough, it kind of pisses me off because I have had it for like 4-5 years. I think because every time I started a new setup, I wanted to keep the filter seeded. I have tried many things, a skimmer, a HOB, manually removing with a paper towel, always came back pretty quick if I changed things up. One spray and it's been going good for almost a week with no signs of return. I am keeping a spray bottle in my stand if it returns.

I am actually wondering how much it contributed to my high tech issues. I have so much more movement at the top of the tank now. I am thinking that it may have caused some decay of the plants, which caused BGA, which caused growth issues. I don't really know.

I know you were thinking about giving this a shot. One spray and mine was done. Highly recommended and cheaper than a skimmer.
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Yeah I was actually going to tell you that I finally tried the h2o2 spray. Sprayed three of my tanks and the next day the scum was gone. I was actually surprised because I was skeptical at first. I also tried the paper towel method years ago -- h2o2 is so much easier. Can't believe the solution was a simple h2o2 spritz.
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Yeah I was actually going to tell you that I finally tried the h2o2 spray. Sprayed three of my tanks and the next day the scum was gone. I was actually surprised because I was skeptical at first. I also tried the paper towel method years ago -- h2o2 is so much easier. Can't believe the solution was a simple h2o2 spritz.
Hey, I didn't know for 5 years. I would not have known if you didn't let me know. Probably one of the best things I have learned in many years about this hobby
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So... Is it simply straight up Walgreens hydrogen peroxide in a spray bottle, spray lightly and call it good?

I can imagine a small amount would definitely have zero impact on the tank, since a good bit more is used for the one-two punch algae control technique, which is safe for most inhabitants (a couple of warnings, but again, much higher dose, I'd think).
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Yessss. My initial fix was h2o2 as well. Quick dose with the filter running. Made the surface super clear and was the best solution other than surface agitation / manually removing.
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So... Is it simply straight up Walgreens hydrogen peroxide in a spray bottle, spray lightly and call it good?

I can imagine a small amount would definitely have zero impact on the tank, since a good bit more is used for the one-two punch algae control technique, which is safe for most inhabitants (a couple of warnings, but again, much higher dose, I'd think).
Exactly what I did. Honestly, I sprayed just a touch because, again, since I was dosing Maracyn (EM), I wasn't sure if Hydrogen Peroxide would have any effect. If I had to guess, it would say it was about 0.5-1 ML. Given the fact that most people consider 17ML up to even 51 ML is a safe dose, I was really surprised.

I guess my point is, I would not only consider this very safe, it also would have been back where it used to be at this point and there is nothing. It also worked very fast, 90% of it was gone in minutes.

On top of that, mine got so bad after many years that surface agitation really didn't do the trick anymore so even with my pipe above the water line, I still wasn't making progress. I have tried skimmers/HOB's in the past in a day or two after I took them off, the stuff started coming back. I never have had surface scum on any other tank so I am really happy Brian brought this suggestion up because I had been fighting, gave up, and can now see some of my plants really perking up. That also may be due to the BGA going away but the BGA has been on and off, not constant where the scum was constant.

Anyway, highly recommended.
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