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Old 12-09-2013, 02:31 PM   #1
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23G Rimless Riparium


This is the 23G CAD Lights ZEN tank we got in a SCAPE group buy back in September that I was going to do a full blown DSM, high tech, planted tank... but I decided use this tanks as a riparium since I really dig on that look and this is our tallest tank which lends itself well to a rip. I love rimless rips

HARDWARE
Tank: CAD Lights ZEN 23 Gallon, Low Iron Glass (back wall covered wtih Gila blackout tint from Home Depot)
Cabinet: IKEA Besta w metal base
Filter: Eheim 2215
Pipes: Zoo Med TC-511 elbows, pipes, spray bar & mounts
Light: Finnex FugeRay Planted+ 24" (8 hour photo cycle)
Light stand: 1/2" EMT mounted to cabinet, height adjustable
Substrate: 1.5" of Natural Art Sand underlaid with 1/8" of MGO potting soil

PLANTS
Most of the plants for this tank came from hydrophyte (Devin) & ripariumsupply.com via the Tradewinds on SCAPE

Current plants:
Spathiphyllum 'Golden Glow' (peace lilly)
Cephalanthus occidentalis (cat palm)
Lysimachia (creeping Jenny)
Pilea grandifolia (aluminum plant)
Alternanthera dentata (Joseph's coat)
Bacopa monnieri
Sagittaria subulata (dwarf sag)

Future plants to be added:
Cryptocoryne ciliata
Anubias Barteri
Microsorum pteropus 'Windeløv' (java fern)
& a few asst mosses

The tank is currently holding about 14 gallons, around 10" of water, but I might lower the water level after incorporating the all rocks and driftwood.

Here are a few pics after the hardscape went it, this is V1



Here are a few detailed pics





Future inhabitants are planned to be a breeding pair of EBRs and a shoal of small dither fish like T. Espei or H. Amandae along with some Amano shrimp and a few Otos.

Welcoming questions and comments

ps. if this takes me out of the 60P club, I'll be sad, but it is what it is

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Old 12-09-2013, 04:40 PM   #2
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Looks nice!

I'd add some more riparium plants...

How does the planted + work with your riparium plants? I'm thinking about trying one for emergent plants.
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Old 12-09-2013, 04:52 PM   #3
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Hi!

Nice project. Like you mentionned, I think it will look nicer with a bit less water , or even a bit more. You seem to be at 50%, I would do either 33% or 66%. Ideally hitting the golden ratio to be precise.
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Old 12-09-2013, 06:06 PM   #4
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Nice project. Like you mentionned, I think it will look nicer with a bit less water , or even a bit more. You seem to be at 50%, I would do either 33% or 66%. Ideally hitting the golden ratio to be precise.
he's already around there. substrate and water he's clearly more than half way full in the tank
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Old 12-09-2013, 06:54 PM   #5
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Looks nice!

I'd add some more riparium plants...

How does the planted + work with your riparium plants? I'm thinking about trying one for emergent plants.
I will be adding one more hanging planter and a trio of trellis rafts when my next order arrives.

Everything seems to be going well with the light. I have a few plants in the substrate that I'm waiting to see how they respond, but the rip plants have no issues and are growing vigorously.

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Nice project. Like you mentionned, I think it will look nicer with a bit less water , or even a bit more. You seem to be at 50%, I would do either 33% or 66%. Ideally hitting the golden ratio to be precise.
I think I am going to keep this water level for the moment. Based on wanting to add EBRs to this tank, I would technically need more water vs. less... everything TBD.

In your opinion, Vin, what is that "golden ratio" you would like to see?

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he's already around there. substrate and water he's clearly more than half way full in the tank
14 gallons is technically more than half full, but it does look deceiving, I agree... the final volume of water in this setup will be determined by the livestock.

If I were to cast dither fish only, I would be inclined to lower the water level.
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Old 12-09-2013, 07:16 PM   #6
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Golden ratio is just a number around 1.62
It is often used to place center pieces in an aquascape. You would place it on the golden ratio instead of in the middle. Its thought to be aesthetically pleasing. Its used in art alot and you find it in nature also. Its pretty interesting but you will find lots more info on google!
Basically i was suggesting you get either your air/water or water/air ratio to match the golden ratio.
Maybe you are allready there and I just missed it on the pictures. I just wanted to point out that lowering your water level is not the only option. You could try a bit higher also.


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Golden ratio is just a number around 1.62
It is often used to place center pieces in an aquascape. You would place it on the golden ratio instead of in the middle. Its thought to be aesthetically pleasing. Its used in art alot and you find it in nature also. Its pretty interesting but you will find lots more info on google!
Basically i was suggesting you get either your air/water or water/air ratio to match the golden ratio.
Maybe you are allready there and I just missed it on the pictures. I just wanted to point out that lowering your water level is not the only option. You could try a bit higher also.
Yup, in time I will decide regarding changing the water level as there are challenges and limitations to both directions.

Thanks for looking and for the feedback!
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Very lovely set up, can;t wait to see how it evolves/grow in
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Very lovely set up, can;t wait to see how it evolves/grow in
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Looks really great!
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Cool looking Riparium! The long planter on the right - is that a DIY?
Where did you order your trellis by the way?
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Looks really great!
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Cool looking Riparium! The long planter on the right - is that a DIY?
Where did you order your trellis by the way?
Ha ha... yes, the long planter is a DIY soap caddy-turned-planter from Target. Similar to this one:


I used the same clay and gravel substrate and a few pieces of foam to block the holes in the back where the suction cups go. Only drawback of this planter is the depth, it's about half the height of the regular planters so I'm not sure it will be a long term addition; more of a staging vessel.

My backorder of trellis small rafts just came in from ripariumsupply.com
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That light hanger looks great!

Can you tell me how you made it? And do you run the wires for the light inside the conduit? I'm thinking about making something similar.

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Sweet. I'll have to give it a try. Maybe foreground plants (Bacopa?) would work better in them? I'll check with Devin to see if he has trellis back in stock.
Can't wait to see more updates of your tank!
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That light hanger looks great!

Can you tell me how you made it? And do you run the wires for the light inside the conduit? I'm thinking about making something similar.
Thanks here is the Reader's Digest version

Supplies from Home Depot:
1/2" EMT, 2 sticks cut to 6'
Ceiling hooks w wood thread
#6 wall anchors
Electrical tape, I used black

Steps
Bend EMT 90° with 3" ahead of bend (leave 3" of conduit sticking out past end of bender) - you may need more or less sicking out

Drill 3/16" hole in the underside (@ 90°) of the EMT, about 1/2" back from end
Hammer in wall anchor (had to cut 1/8" off anchor to fit snug inside conduit)
Install ceiling hook until tight

I used some chain to hang the light and I simply wrapped the light cord to the inside edge of 1 hangar bar using electrical tape. You could use split loom instead.

If you are willing to cut the power cord on the lamp (and risk voiding your warranty) then you can run it inside the conduit. I opted not to do that and simply taped the cord to the EMT.

I also hammered 1/2" end caps into the end of the EMT to "finish" it off, I believe I got those at OSH.

I attached the EMT hangars to the back of the Besta cabinet using 1/2" EMT clamps mounted to brackets. I had to bend the clamps open a bit to allow the EMT to slide - it's all hand-tight and seems to hold just fine.
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