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Old 11-14-2013, 05:28 AM   #691
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Yeah, but $100+ isn't exactly "simple budget build" for a tank that probably won't house any more than 15 bucks worth of fish.

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Old 11-14-2013, 01:09 PM   #692
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one of the mini canisters that do 80gph may do you better (zoomed 501 for instance).
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Old 11-14-2013, 01:43 PM   #693
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Does a canister create the same kind of current/turbulence as a HOB? As a rule, I always over filtrate, but would 20 gallon capacity canister have the same "push" as a 20 gal HOB? For some reason I feel like that should be a dumb question, but I've never ventured into this realm....

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Old 11-14-2013, 07:22 PM   #694
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HOB and canisters both list a flow rating in Gph. Most HOB filters distribute the return right at, above or below the waterline. Canister filters most commonly have a spray bar, which you mount inside the tank using suction cups.

This bar can then be turned or twisted to direct the return flow where you like. Point the bar outlets up towards the surface to create agitation that oxygenates the water, or aim them lower to create flow in dead zones.

I'm happy with SunSun products for the price. If you're looking for a canister for a 10 gallon tank, you might want to look a bit smaller.

In fact, if budget is an issue, why not simply get small powerhead and a sponge to fit over the inlet to act as a filter?

TL/DR - as long as the Gph is similar and accurate, they will create similar flow, but a spray bar does a better job of directing that flow, spreading it out, based on the length of the bar.
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Old 11-14-2013, 09:54 PM   #695
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Thanks for the info! Budget is not THAT much of an issue. I prefer filtration systems that have multiple stage filtration, sponges just don't do it for me. Especially because im considering moving my dwarf puffers into that tank once it has cycled, and they have a large bioload. I was actually looking at their smaller one that will power 30, but I also found a couple other things that sound like they would work well too.

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Old 11-15-2013, 03:59 PM   #696
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Yeah, mine made a big difference. I also found that pot scrubbies REALLY slow down the flow so I ended up ordering a couple more of the sponges for cheap from sunsun and used a metric crap ton of ceramic media (2 baskets full for a 40b) ceramic media is cheap through ebay (when you have so much, quality is not a huge deal) - I like the seller cll_petsupplies
I got a busy weekend but will install it this weekend hopefully. I got it from CLL actually. I'll report back on the flow rate.
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Old 11-18-2013, 06:06 PM   #697
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Got it installed this weekend. I cut about a foot off the hoses, flow did increase but not a whole lot. Its certainly less than the fluval 304 by comparison. However I really like the filter thus far. The skimmer is an interesting set up lol, had to raise the tube up about 4" above the rim to get it to work.

This is in a 55g with a turtle so we'll see how it works out.
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Well...I have some sad news. I lost my SunSun today. It lasted me almost 2 years, and would have gone another 2 if I didn't mess up.

I let my 20g aquarium go unchecked for a week, and the water evaporated below the intake and I burned up the impeller.

Luckily, all my fish are alive. But I don't have any back-up filters, so they are just going to have to deal without any flow for a week or two while a new one gets shipped out. I have only 6 neon tetra and some shrimp, and way too many plants, so I'm not too worried about Ammonia.
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Old 11-18-2013, 09:53 PM   #699
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Well...I have some sad news. I lost my SunSun today. It lasted me almost 2 years, and would have gone another 2 if I didn't mess up.

I let my 20g aquarium go unchecked for a week, and the water evaporated below the intake and I burned up the impeller.

Luckily, all my fish are alive. But I don't have any back-up filters, so they are just going to have to deal without any flow for a week or two while a new one gets shipped out. I have only 6 neon tetra and some shrimp, and way too many plants, so I'm not too worried about Ammonia.
truaqua sells parts fwiw
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Old 11-19-2013, 03:46 AM   #700
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Already bought another. I thought they didn't make parts...Oh well, I can always use another filter.
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Oh, and the impeller is fine, its the motor (or whatever you call it...). I couldn't find that on truaqua....could somebody link me?
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Made a new back for my canopy this weekend. Skimmer works great, this tank has always had a thick oil slick on top, crystal clear now. I got some more media too, running 3 blue pads, bio balls, 6 white pads.

Another note, evaporation is almost nil, used to be a +1/2" a day with my Penguin 350. I'm probably going to get another one of these puppies for my 29g.
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Old 12-04-2013, 06:11 PM   #703
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Congratulations on getting the skimmer to work! Many have tried, few have succeeded. Good to know that simply raising the intake bar a few inches makes it possible.

My SunSun has been going strong for 2+ years on my 30g cube, inline reactor and heater included.
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Congratulations on getting the skimmer to work! Many have tried, few have succeeded. Good to know that simply raising the intake bar a few inches makes it possible.

My SunSun has been going strong for 2+ years on my 30g cube, inline reactor and heater included.

Honestly i got my skimmer working pretty easy - took some black plastic and bent it around a few of the fins then use it to hole the skimmer in place with tension from the intake tube. Works VERY well (but has to be moved when your water level changes a lot, but for larger tanks this can be weeks - and only takes about 10 seconds).
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I'm planning on a sunsun HW-304A for my marineland 27g cube, how much media does each of the baskets hold if someone on here has it?
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