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Old 08-13-2012, 01:11 PM   #1
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Pruning and trimming


I'd like to start a thread about pruning and trimming. I have been doing this on a serious note for about a year and finally have the set-up and knowledge to make things grow and i am having some real good success however when it comes to learning the particulars of grooming i'm falling short.
I can plant things where i want them but every plant is different and after seeing things get established things tend to morph a little from what i see in my minds eye. I know and have seen the changes in plants from light level, CO2 levels and ferts but when it comes to grooming them to either keep what i like or to groom them to fill in or stay short and compact or spread i am second guessing.
For example, Anacharis - it grows nice and then when it gets too tall i trim back about 4 to 6". After a few days it starts another shoot just below where i cut it. then i end up with a segmented stem. is that the nature of the beast ? will i have to keep constantly snipping and removing and then replanting to keep it the way i want it ?
My wife mentioned how pinching the tops of certain house plants and herb plants will make them grow bushier. Aside from light, CO2 and ferts how do people keep things tidy ? I'm very curious to hear everybody's techniques on various plants.
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Old 08-13-2012, 03:08 PM   #2
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Hi Slippryrock,

Here is the guideline I use with good results.
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Old 08-13-2012, 03:47 PM   #3
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THAT was a great thread thank you. Looks like i need to start looking at things from a different point of view when planning and planting if i apply those techniques. which sounds like what i can do comfortably with the species i have. I'm just a titch nervous about doing serious deforestation. it's like " yeah yeah, i love my set up, now lets hack it all to pieces"
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Hi Slippryrock,

ROFL; I left my nerves of steel in my other pants! I started doing just do one species to see how it responded; after a couple of weeks it had filled in nice and thick.

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I get some healthy stems or bushin going and then test. If you need to thin the bush, cut it down and keep half the bush as bottoms and half as tops. That way you can compare them side by side as they repair/ regrow.

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Old 08-13-2012, 06:17 PM   #6
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great idea. also take pics as i go. i may come out of my shell and post them someday.
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so are you planting the parts you cut off?
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some, a select few. i bought small quantities to start with to see how they would do. if they do good i replant them. the last month or so i have been saving my clippings for a friend. but i am all out of room in my other tank to house them. last couple of clippings went in the trash. i'm starting to see this could take a few months of cutting, replanting, thinning and recutting to get everything just so. For a lazy dude i sure did pick a busy hobby.
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Hi Slippryrock,

Here is the guideline I use with good results.
Great info in this link however they do not discuss the risk of lowering your plant load too much at once resulting in my question of is there any risk of algae when doing this ? They do mention cutting back slightly on ferts...my guess is for this reason ?

I believe algae risk is not really of an issue with their hacking method but what about the uprooting when planting fresh cut stem tops in their place ? Wouldn't this run risk of ammonia sturring and thus yield algae risk ?

Or do you simply trim & replant in one specific area / group per week and do so just before water changes ? I think that's the answer based on a previous thread I started...

It would be great to see a "how to" video (indepth not vague) for something like this for the various aquascaping styles...do these exist ?

Thanks !
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They talk a lot about stems, which is good because I learned a lot from the thread.

But.... what about trimming swords and crypts?? Do you trim them? I have an amazon sword that I like because it was one of my first plants but it gets way too big for my 25g. So I just wack off whole leaves from time to time.. dont know if thats right and it leaves a nasty plant base. Any articles on that?

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They talk a lot about stems, which is good because I learned a lot from the thread.

But.... what about trimming swords and crypts?? Do you trim them? I have an amazon sword that I like because it was one of my first plants but it gets way too big for my 25g. So I just wack off whole leaves from time to time.. dont know if thats right and it leaves a nasty plant base. Any articles on that?

25 gal.-api renastart xp1 anf xp2- 2 custom spraybars with diy inline heater and water change valve (so key!)-odyssea-4x24w t5ho. 4in raised.-injected co2 via up inline diffuser-florite and sane substrate.-java fern-amazon sword-marsilea minuta-water wisteria (crappy)-dwarf hair grass-anubias afanzeli (spellcheck)-telanthera cardinalis-10 tiger barbs-6 glofish tetras-7 otocinclus -1 german blue ram. females died.-2 albino corydoras. I know need 6
ei dosing and 6 hours light 100%
I have monsterous swords as well. It's my understanding that swords & crypts that one should "peel" the uwanted leaves / stem from at the base. It'll peel off like an onion and promote new growth. I did this wrong though when I battled algae in my swords and thus simply trimmed the stalks near the base...now it has a "pineapple" look which I need to go back and peel away as new healthy stalks / stems / leaves come in. However, I'd like to know as well if this is the correct method, how many stems on these type plants is getting in the realm of over crowding for a single plant. I know you can also peel / split the crypts off at the root level as they reproduce at that junction.
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Old 09-12-2013, 03:06 PM   #12
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I did the same and now have the pineapple look as well lol.. I always wondered if yhe rotting leaves would affect water params so that was my main concern. Its hidden so only I know its goofy.

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Any one want to update the answer to the amazon sword trimming question?
What is the best way to trim these plants?
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All three of my monster sords are filling back in very nicely after the "peeling" method. I also had someone with more experience with these swords to verify that they too "peel" the taller leaves off.
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