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Old 10-15-2013, 09:23 PM   #1
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My First Discus Tank Lots of photos!... Now with eggs! and a Tardis..


This is my first attempt with discus, had them for about 4 months now the tank i have had has been running as a community tank for about 9 months or so

managed to get the discus for a very good price as the previous owner was shutting the tank down

so here are the dimensions of the tank



Here is the tank back when it was just a community tank




THE FISH

Discus

5 discus about 3-4"

2 blue turquoise discus

1 yellow discus

2 orange discus















Tank mates

7 or 8 Rummy Nose Tetras

5 red eyed Tetras

a few harlequin Tetras

5 penguin Tetras

1 guppy! remains of community tank

2 plecs (not for long as I will be re-homing)

6/7 Corydoras - not sure of the types but I think Bronze and a nice spotty one

2 Nerite Snail

1 Elephant nose snail

a load of Malaysian Trumpet Snails

a bunch of Ramshorn snails

Plants

Java Fern

not really sure what plants I have I'm sure someone can help me ID them I think they are Amazon Swords and another Sword?

Equipment+ maintenance + Decor

Water produced by my 50gph R/O filter
100 Litre waterbutt

Tank as above ...

100watt heater
1000lph all pond sollutions external filter with spray bar and skimmer

GLO twin t5 unit with 2x25 watt bulbs 8 hours + JBL ferrapol 5ml per week/water change

medium sized LED strip colour changing with remote (normally on green/blue)

tetra airpump

Black sand (can't remember the brand but was a 25kg sack)

2 large Redmoor Roots

2 PVC Tube/Caves

digital Temp

TDS Meter from Ebay

PH meter from Ebay - needs new battery and calibrating though

JBL Combiset test kit


I do a 10% water change once a week sometimes 2 times if needed

after some reading on here I was fed up with using a small pump to fill the tank slowly after changes so I got a 3 way flow valve and put in on the intake of the filter tube and when i do a change i just flick the valve to the 25 litre container thats filled from the water butt and it fills my tank nice and slow through the spray bar




The Start

When I first got this tank it had guppies neons tetras etc the usual community tank

adopted a Beta that someone was getting rid of and never really had much of a plan for the tank kept swapping the types of fish I would keep and it was never too stable

Heard of the Discus tank being shutdown and had seen them in the house before and always liked them so was offered them really cheap

along with the 5 discus I was also given a load of plants the rummy noses the red eyed tetras the cories and also a peacock eel...(lasted about 3 months until my holiday..)

started by doing a large water change in my tank with RO from a garden centre not too far from me with an aquatic section with the aim to slowly acclimatise my current fish to the softer water.

picked up the fish and drip acclimatised them in cool-boxes for around 1/2 hours plonked them in and all good!

a bit shy to star with spent a lot of time hiding but eventually came out



Started to feed on Blood worm (defrosted in tank water)

discus mix (frozen again defrosted in tank water)

frozen brine shrimp defrosted

flake

NT Labs tropical pellets

Tetra Prima

I was worried about over feeding them and water quality so I began to feed them every 2 days usually

got some freeze dried Tubiflex worms which proved to be very popular!





The water

Got really fed up with driving out to get RO water once a week

I was taking 2 25 litre containers and this only cost me 4 but it was hassle

so got hold of a cheap RO unit on ebay for around 40 and a TDS Pen for around 8

RO tends to come out with a TDS of around 004ppm and a PH of 6.5 which is good seeing as i live in an area that has tap water like liquid rock... not great for discus!

I remineralize with a mineral powder ( can't remember brand) in the 100 litre water but and aim for a TDS of around 150

since starting this I must have forgotten the TDS aimed for as it was around 250 on my last test so I have since started to work it down again



MY FIRST DISCUS DEATH!!

all was good I don't think I had so much as a tetra die in the last 4 months until last month I went on holiday for 2 weeks!

left my mum a pill box with 2 weeks of food all set out... Since starting I have learned that Discus require little and often so while I was away 1 small meal per day seemed a good idea seeing as I would not be able to have a water change.

while I was away 1 of the blue turquoise discus died!

tested the water and all was good so unsure of cause of death I would imagine it to be water condition though or an illness that went unnoticed while away

The replacement!

Whilst at a garden centre I realised they did discus

I was looking to get a pigeon blood discus

they had 1 pigeon blood left 3-4" 37 not a bad price! it had quite bad peppering though

and they had another blue turquoise 3-4" 37 also although the quality of this was far better then its replacement a much nicer colour and a red streak on the fins

I went for the Blue turquoise and glad i made the choice it is a very nice fish although even 3 weeks later its still very shy





after a lot more reading!

So I did what I thought was a lot of reading before taking these discus on but I have learned lots more since getting them

I am now feeding them every day and some days a small meal of pellets in the morning or prima or flake and I have picked up some hikari discus food they like too

then when im home from work they have 2 bloodworm cubes and 1 brine shrimp cube or 1 discus cube defrosted in tank water

I have now changed the plants to an easy to grow kind and with the new 25 watt bulb and 7ml of ferrapol per week seem to be doing really good and i have been able to take a cutting of the Java fern and create a new plant!
a first for me with plants - even if its not a big accomplishment!

The Tank now






not as much peppering on this one



my latest test (before the water change and last change was 1 week ago)



Future

I still have some tanks in the garage so I would like to get them to breed but I don't know if male / female (help appreciated!)

I will keep a spreadsheet of params and update my chart

keep up with photos and updates on here

when possible upgrade to a much larger tank ( this currently is in my bedroom)

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Old 10-16-2013, 12:53 AM   #2
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Awesome, nice pics! And cool pick ups.
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beautiful fish!
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Your fish are beautiful.

You probably know this....you might want to remove the cups your plants are in. Their roots will soon out grow the cups.
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Your fish are beautiful.

You probably know this....you might want to remove the cups your plants are in. Their roots will soon out grow the cups.
Thank you I didn't know to remove them actually I thought the roots just grow through cos they are pretty rooted now

The only issue I have is my sand is quite shallow so I don't know if they would be held down enough

How would I hold the plants down once the cups are off
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Snip the plastic basket with scissors and gently pull off the basket. Some roots will break off but as long as the majority of the roots are ok the plant will be fine. Some stores sell plant anchors. You'll need to add more substrate to cover the roots plus root tabs to nourish the plant. Sand has no nutrients to provide to your plants.

Keep posting pics as your tank matures.
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Snip the plastic basket with scissors and gently pull off the basket. Some roots will break off but as long as the majority of the roots are ok the plant will be fine. Some stores sell plant anchors. You'll need to add more substrate to cover the roots plus root tabs to nourish the plant. Sand has no nutrients to provide to your plants.

Keep posting pics as your tank matures.
Thanks I have some plastic root anchor clips but they don't seem to hold much down as they weigh nothing

Okay root tabs it is then.. Now do I put one under each plant?

Do I still continue to use liquid ferts too? Would you recommend anything other than ferripol

The tank is not heavily planted and will not be as I need the room for swimming space

Looks like I should get a couple of small bags of black sand and then just place ontop.. Should be able to drop it in by hand without causing too much of a cloud... I hope

Will remove the plants and replant on the weekend so more photos to come!
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Here is a video of the DIY system I use to change water



and a video of the fish feeding taken about a month ago

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Very nice setup. Most discus keepers grow their juveniles out in grow-out tanks with bare bottoms, and 50% daily water changes, just to get them big enough before adding them to a tank with substrate. I suggest keeping the temperature at a minimum of 82F to keep them healthy, and add a uv sterilizer to kill any pathogens or other things that can lead to illness. Keep the updates coming.
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Very nice setup. Most discus keepers grow their juveniles out in grow-out tanks with bare bottoms, and 50% daily water changes, just to get them big enough before adding them to a tank with substrate. I suggest keeping the temperature at a minimum of 82F to keep them healthy, and add a uv sterilizer to kill any pathogens or other things that can lead to illness. Keep the updates coming.
Thank you still a work in progress and still learning

Yeah they are kept at 28c At the moment

I had looked into a uv and still may get one

Might order some purigen as a next step for the filter
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your yellow discus looks really skinny and malnourished you should up the water changes and feedings
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your yellow discus looks really skinny and malnourished you should up the water changes and feedings
Yeah I agree that's the best route

I have read discus are prone to digestion problems and bloat from over feeding in your experience what do you think?
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Tank looks good. Hate to poop ur party but some of the fish are stunted. . .did you buy these from an LFS?
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Tank looks good. Hate to poop ur party but some of the fish are stunted. . .did you buy these from an LFS?
Thank you 1 the most recent one the blue turquoise one is from my lfs so should be alright

The rest I got off someone I know shutting the tank down all can from an lfs originally

In fairness it sounds like my fault for not feeding enough.. Was worries about over feeding but it was the opposite

Time to up the feeds and increase the wc
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Yeah I agree that's the best route

I have read discus are prone to digestion problems and bloat from over feeding in your experience what do you think?
theyre prone to be bloated from flakes and pellets not frozen or freeze dried food
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