|07-18-2007, 04:35 PM||#16|
Planted Tank Enthusiast
In the US, the EPA regulates drinking water provided by commercial companies (municipal or otherwise), but NOT private well water. If it is a private well, it is your job to make sure it is safe to drink.
Finally, don't trust the water softener companies to test your water. I am a PhD chemist who does some water quality work - so I let one of these companies come test my municipal water (for fun - I already knew the water quality). Quite an experience - scary for the mistakes made - in their favor. He said my water was >100ppm hardness, while my water company and I both measure 55ppm! Then tried to sell me a $5000 system! Use a water quality lab (as in the link above) so you know the results are unbiased and reliable. Then if there is a problem only buy what you need to fix the problem - RO is not always the answer. You pay for what you get - free is just that.
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|07-18-2007, 05:18 PM||#17|
Planted Tank Enthusiast
Thank you very much for your help guys.
I am going to look into this further and have the water tested by some other company than a water softener company.
My boss told pretty much the same story yesterday at work when I brought up my water issues.
He explained that his water smelled a little weird but looked fine, but the smell turned him off from drinking it. So he had it tested and ended up spending $2000 - $3000 on a water softener system and then told me it did not fix his problem. And he says the water filter in his fridge that cost not even a fraction of the softener works great.
Luckily I live in an area that has alot to do with water and keeping its quality for salmon. I shouldnt have a problem getting free water tests.
|07-19-2007, 02:07 AM||#18|
A bacteria test at our lab runs $40. The cost for the test is almost $20 for supplies/time so likely you wont get a bacteria test free. It is a 2 to 3 day test.
Chemical analysis of your water is also a consideration. Some people test before and after their filters to see if they are doing what is required (since you already have the filters running I would just test after and see if the results are satisfactory).
In BC, Canada we have DRINKING WATER GUIDELINES which outlines all the chemical, physical and biological characteristics public water needs to meet and we apply it to wells as well, you should be able to search that to help decipher any results you get.
Water companies can totally get you...we have soft water here and people still end up putting in softeners, so now they have soft water with lots of Ca, Mg, but still have a multitude of other problems (like bacteria).
Look for a CERTIFIED lab. We are CAEAL and ISO certified. So look for the same type of credentials or you are just throwing your money away.
|07-26-2007, 05:35 PM||#19|
Planted Tank Enthusiast
I called my friends who work with salmon. They said they are on well water as well and have thier water tested frequently here http://www.edgeanalytical.com/
I cannot find certifications but he was almost sure they are.
This is their pricing:
drinking water Testing
Name Methods Prices
Total Organic Carbon (TOC) SM5310 C $ 38.00
Chloramine SM4500-CI G $141.00
Chlorine 330.5, SM4500-CI B $16.00
Bromate 300.1 $35.00
Chlorite 300.1 $35.00
Halo-Acetic Acids 552.2 $140.00
Total Trihalomethanes 524.2 $81.00
Arsenic Low Level (2ppb) 200.8 $18.00
Chloride 300 $18.00
Complete Inorganic Compounds (IOC) call for complete list $289.00
Lead and Copper Rule 200.8 $22.00
Nitrate 300 $18.00
Primary Standards: Sb,As,Ba,Be,Cd,Cr,Cu,CN,F,Pb,Hg,Ni,NO3-, NO2-N, Se,Na,Tl,Turbidity call for complete list $225.00
Secondary Standards: Ag,Fe,Mn,Zn,Cl,Color,Conductivity,Sulfates,TDS call for complete list $92.00
Carbamates 531.1 $215.00
Diquat 549 $141.00
Disinfection By-Products: --- ---
EDB/DBCP 504.1 $105.00
Endothall 548.1 $130.00
Glyphosate 547 $118.00
Halo-Acetic Acids (HAAs) 552.1 $140.00
Haloacetonitriles and Chloral Hydrate 551 $145.00
Herbicides 515.1 $175.00
Maximum Total Trihalomethanes Potential (MTTP) 510.1 $125.00
Pesticides 525.2 $355.00
Synthetic Organic Compounds ( incl. PCB screen) 525, 515, 531 $590.00
Trihalomethanes (THMs) 524.2 $81.00
Volatile Organic Compounds (VOC) 524.2 $175.00
Cesium-134 901.1 $106.00
Gross Alpha 900 $90.00
Gross Alpha and Beta 900 $90.00
Gross Beta 900 $90.00
Iodine-131 901.1 $106.00
Radium-226 903 $90.00
Radium-228 3M (disc) $90.00
Radon-222 913 $65.00
Strontium-90 905 $222.00
Tritium 906 $95.00
Uranium-234,-235,-238 7500U $125.00
List 1 - assessment monitoring 527, 529 $575.00
List 2 - screening survey 525.5, 535, 521 $865.00
Awesome, 24 hour turnaround, $15 for testing presence or absence of bacteria.