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Old 09-12-2013, 03:53 PM   #1
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Africans and SA compatibility?


Hey all. I just moved a 75 into my room and finished setting it up last night. I was wondering if, with the current stock, I could throw a Jack Dempsey in there. My friend owns the current stock, but is letting me keep the aquarium until he can set his 125 up at his place. He's got a red pike, another pike sp, a banded leporinus (I believe that's what he said), a raphael cat and a synodontis hybrid. The terrain is planted, substrate being a mixture of eco complete, tan and black sand, and black gravel. Lots of DW and rocks. I would absolutely love to have a Jack Dempsey.
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Hey all. I just moved a 75 into my room and finished setting it up last night. I was wondering if, with the current stock, I could throw a Jack Dempsey in there. My friend owns the current stock, but is letting me keep the aquarium until he can set his 125 up at his place. He's got a red pike, another pike sp, a banded leporinus (I believe that's what he said), a raphael cat and a synodontis hybrid. The terrain is planted, substrate being a mixture of eco complete, tan and black sand, and black gravel. Lots of DW and rocks. I would absolutely love to have a Jack Dempsey.
Might could get away with it until the Dempsey reaches five or six inches,then I believe he will re-arrange the substrtae to his liking.
I used to keep large south american cichlid's and only plant's in pot's survived.
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Hey all. I just moved a 75 into my room and finished setting it up last night. I was wondering if, with the current stock, I could throw a Jack Dempsey in there. My friend owns the current stock, but is letting me keep the aquarium until he can set his 125 up at his place. He's got a red pike, another pike sp, a banded leporinus (I believe that's what he said), a raphael cat and a synodontis hybrid. The terrain is planted, substrate being a mixture of eco complete, tan and black sand, and black gravel. Lots of DW and rocks. I would absolutely love to have a Jack Dempsey.

African cichlid and SA cichlid are a big no no. they can't be in the same tank.
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+1 with plantkeeper. Here's the reason- they can't "talk" to each other. Cichlids from south america all use a similar method of communication, species from Africa all use another. So when one fish says- "back off, this my cave" that signal is sent differently depending on which continent the cichlid is from. (This is a generalization the more closely cichlids are related, or the closer the region, the better they communicate with each other.) Your dempsey won't get the aggressive signals from an african cichlid, and vice versa- so you end up with a ramp up in tensions, and usually the death of one of the fish. Now is that 100%? There's no such thing, of course. Some people get lucky and can mix small amounts of cross continental fish successfully. But usually it's a recipe for disaster.
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Dont mix, They will kill each other. it's not a maybe, its a 100%
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Cichlids or other fish? Because lots of others don't need hard, alkaline water and could go in a low KH/pH tank.
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Old 09-29-2013, 06:22 PM   #7
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Cichlids or other fish? Because lots of others don't need hard, alkaline water and could go in a low KH/pH tank.
I am skeptical about hard water and alkaline water requirements, or any parameter requirements for that matter. One dude at my LFS got CRS to breed in our local water supply, which is basically liquid rock. Also, I have been able to acclimate any fish other than those with extreme parameter requirements.

On another note, I just read an article on pike cichlids and read that they're South American! That makes me so happy! I'm gonna order a jack dempsey ASAP! I've got a great little 75 gallon setup that I'd love to house him in.

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Old 09-29-2013, 07:25 PM   #8
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I have had ok results with housing convicts, kenyis, and fire mouths in same tank. Maybe it was luck? that tank was running like that for about 8 months with no issues. I guess like everything in fish keeping there's always an exception
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