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Old 09-26-2013, 06:23 PM   #31
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I have checked the flow on mine by dosing ferts right into the pipe. Because I have the poppy glass, flow seems way lower than it is. I have had this setup on a 20 long which is longer with no issues but I will keep that in mind. I am going to try my other lily and see how much gets pushed around plant wise for fun. I feel like my poppy glass, along with the added height is better than my other outflow for distribution, just slows things down. However, I won't know until I get further so I will keep that in mind (thanks!).
Gotcha. By the way, do you like the poppy glass? i thought about trying it but i really like the flow because it allows more oxygen so i can keep my co2 on the higher side.
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Old 09-26-2013, 06:28 PM   #32
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I did a large trim last night and moved a few things around. I'm trying to form more unique grouping and streets. It looks to be coming together. It will look a lot better once the Rotala sp. nanjenshan, the Macrandra, Downoi, HC, and Pantal Fill in some more.


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Old 09-26-2013, 07:01 PM   #33
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Looks like progress, Joey! So far so good... btw, what's the green plant between the ludwigia sp. Red and macrandra? Kinda looks like p. Erectus.
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Old 09-26-2013, 07:30 PM   #34
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Gotcha. By the way, do you like the poppy glass? i thought about trying it but i really like the flow because it allows more oxygen so i can keep my co2 on the higher side.
I do like it but I also have it as low as it can go. I would imagine my other pipe would have quite a bit more surface agitation and more CO2 at the same height. I actually was going to put my old one on for fun, see if I still feel the same about.

I like it because it significantly reduces the velocity of water coming out of the pipe. Up high, it my provide more surface agitation but I think it would just be more even. I wouldn't count on a much higher level of O2 in the tank.
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Old 09-26-2013, 07:57 PM   #35
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I bought it as tissue culture Rotala Wallichi, but so far it looks just like nanjenshan. Looks like they are mislabeled at Petco. If I don't like the way it fills in, I'll probably opt for Wallichi from pea body's paradise. Right now it offers as a good contrast between the Macrandra and Ludwigia sp. red. I have 6 stems or so of Ammania but they're little. They are in front f the Ludwigia and the Rotala sp green. I'm going to form a small grouping of them.

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I do like it but I also have it as low as it can go. I would imagine my other pipe would have quite a bit more surface agitation and more CO2 at the same height. I actually was going to put my old one on for fun, see if I still feel the same about.

I like it because it significantly reduces the velocity of water coming out of the pipe. Up high, it my provide more surface agitation but I think it would just be more even. I wouldn't count on a much higher level of O2 in the tank.

Yeah, I need to run the normal pipes then. I need the extra oxygen so I can run my co2 higher.


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Yeah, I need to run the normal pipes then. I need the extra oxygen so I can run my co2 higher.


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Soon I will swap out the pipes as I want to see the difference. I will make sure to take a video of each so others can see. My other pipe is a DIY acrylic lily I bought at a shop in So Cal I like ($25 per the set). So my other pipe is not necesarily the best comparison but I was planning on doing this soon.
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Your tank is filling in nicely.
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Soon I will swap out the pipes as I want to see the difference. I will make sure to take a video of each so others can see. My other pipe is a DIY acrylic lily I bought at a shop in So Cal I like ($25 per the set). So my other pipe is not necesarily the best comparison but I was planning on doing this soon.
I like the stainless steel pipes too. The ones that are shaped like the standard eheim outflow.


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Your tank is filling in nicely.
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looking good, plant health has definitely improved, couple more weeks and you will have really good tops to replant!
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Quick Question-
Today I noticed my Macrandra is bending to the right. I'm unsure what's causing it. Dosing EI, Aquasoil, Drop checker greenish yellow. Any one have ideas?


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If it isn't getting pushed around by the filter, I am guessing it is just getting a lot of light. Many stems will start "bending" when they get closer to the light, or are just in high light, kind of like a carpet plant.
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If it isn't getting pushed around by the filter, I am guessing it is just getting a lot of light. Many stems will start "bending" when they get closer to the light, or are just in high light, kind of like a carpet plant.
Actually the current from the filter goes the opposite direction so I know it's not that. It must just be the light. My other Rotalas bend like crazy.


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Actually the current from the filter goes the opposite direction so I know it's not that. It must just be the light. My other Rotalas bend like crazy.


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My guess it's just the light, like the green here in the middle of the picture:

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