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Old 09-08-2013, 11:36 PM   #16
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My money is on those shrimp looking better than any Pure Line I have.

Because most of mine look waaaay worse than the photos you shared when they're young and/or fresh out of a shipping container.
Does this mean that I shouldn't expect much when buying PRL shrimps from you???

Or shouldn't expect anything at all!!!

Even though I am sitting on the sideline, I am learning something from this. So thank you very much, guys.

Have a good day.
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Old 09-09-2013, 06:25 AM   #17
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In my experience low grade PRL don't look much different than regular CRS. Depending on the breeder and how many generations that line has been line breed you *might* see things like larger sizes and larger percentage of offsprings with similar patterns to parents (if both parent have the same pattern). But that really comes down to what traits the breeder has as targets and how many generation of line breeding has occur.

Generally, those are good questions to ask the breeder if you are unfamiliar with their line. Even more so if there is a lack of photos and/or grading system in place.

Things like color doesn't really come into the equation unless you get the very high grade ones - and I have seen very few domestic high grade PRL / PBL lines.

I purchased some APB PBL and I am fairly happy with them. A fairly large percentage of the F1s have similar patterns as their parents. Color is not as solid of some of my Nishiki JPRL, but wasn't really expecting that for the price. I think with some work they have very good potential, if not they are still better than most non-PBL CBS i have encountered for sale.
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Old 09-10-2013, 09:13 AM   #18
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And how are you expecting them to look different from regular CRS? Do you know exactly what the term PRL means? It just means that they have not been crossed with goldens and don't throw any golden babies. Sometimes the quality will vary, some PRLs will have better, more solid whites but not always. What were you expecting them to look like?
I agree with raven! PRL wil never throw golden bees. I have seen PRL transparent but mosura or hiromaru patterns.
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Old 09-11-2013, 02:57 AM   #19
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In my experience low grade PRL don't look much different than regular CRS. Depending on the breeder and how many generations that line has been line breed you *might* see things like larger sizes and larger percentage of offsprings with similar patterns to parents (if both parent have the same pattern). But that really comes down to what traits the breeder has as targets and how many generation of line breeding has occur.

Generally, those are good questions to ask the breeder if you are unfamiliar with their line. Even more so if there is a lack of photos and/or grading system in place.

Things like color doesn't really come into the equation unless you get the very high grade ones - and I have seen very few domestic high grade PRL / PBL lines.

I purchased some APB PBL and I am fairly happy with them. A fairly large percentage of the F1s have similar patterns as their parents. Color is not as solid of some of my Nishiki JPRL, but wasn't really expecting that for the price. I think with some work they have very good potential, if not they are still better than most non-PBL CBS i have encountered for sale.
Thank you, have you begun culling the APB ones? Also just out of curiousity, where did you find Nishiki shrimps? Nishiki shrimps have gathered quite some fame in all the Chinese forums I came across, but interestingly I cannot find a seller that carries them
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Old 09-11-2013, 03:56 AM   #20
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I guess I'm being somewhat paranoid about them
Has these shrimp given you cause to have extreme and irrational fear or distrust of others? LOL

Purelines will show their best when breeding as you will see F1 and hopefully F2 show no golden offspring.

The Quality and intensity of the color and thickness of shells is derived from the selective breeding. The photos you will see online often sell for $500 and up in asia and will likely never make their way into the states given that the market in Japan, and asia are rather fierce and competitive in contrast to being a niche here. Just want to set your expectations as much of these details are rarely discussed openly.
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Old 09-11-2013, 04:28 AM   #21
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My Pure lines our a mixture of Crimson Taiwans and some Benibachi I got. I'm pretty happy with the way the adult colorations are, but you have to let them mature and at the very least get acclimated to their new tanks. If their stressed you will not see them in their best colors.
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Old 09-11-2013, 05:09 AM   #22
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Thank you, have you begun culling the APB ones? Also just out of curiousity, where did you find Nishiki shrimps? Nishiki shrimps have gathered quite some fame in all the Chinese forums I came across, but interestingly I cannot find a seller that carries them
I won't exacting use the word "culling" with them as they are all fairly good looking shrimps but i do plan on pairing a few off that I like the most.

Max from Benibachi USA/ Fancy Shrimps is the person to hit up for JPRL, not sure when his next import is, last time I talked to him he was still in Japan. I do like how he sold his last batch of shrimps though. He had photos of each individual so you know exactly which one you are getting. I rather pay $200 for an individual shrimp and know exactly what I am getting than take my chances with $200 worth of multiple lower grades ones. But to each their own.

As other has said as well as Ron from APB, you have to let them settle and mature a bit. I think you will be happy with quality of Ron's shrimps, I know I was!
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