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Old 09-04-2013, 12:14 AM   #16
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you could try a pool supply place and get pool filter gravel. it looks pretty uniform and grey when wet
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:43 AM   #17
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Here's what I've learn with my experience with dirt'd tanks.

Use at least 2 inches of cap (it will settled down). More is better.

Fill tank with dirt. Use a spray bottle to soak dirt, compress it gently.

Scoop in the Eco-complete one cup at a time. Go slowly.

Fill the tank with water VERY SLOWLY. Maybe using the cup method. Don't just pour water into the tank. The force of the water will displace you cap, and you'll have a never ending mess on your hands.

I'd suggest using a kitchen strainer to filter out small wooden bits in the MGO. It's totally optional and take a bit of effort and time.
Thank you for the pointers! And yes I plan on taking my time with this one! Gonna 'mineralize' the dirt before it goes in the tank. Still basically figuring it out as I go, but hopefully doing it right!
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:45 AM   #18
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Not sure which EC you have or what you're looking for but I have the fine grained version and it's pretty much all black. Pretty good cap so far in my opinion.
I didn't know they had different grains. I'll have to look into that. I've never done much research on substrate cuz my lfs only carries three kinds and I never wanted to pay for shipping
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:46 AM   #19
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you could try a pool supply place and get pool filter gravel. it looks pretty uniform and grey when wet
Not a fan of gray....black or like a natural brownish is what I'm looking for. Thanks though
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Old 09-04-2013, 01:15 AM   #20
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I didn't know they had different grains. I'll have to look into that. I've never done much research on substrate cuz my lfs only carries three kinds and I never wanted to pay for shipping
You might not like it though, there's definitely red specs in it. If you look at my 20 long journal you'll see.
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Old 09-04-2013, 02:26 AM   #21
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You might not like it though, there's definitely red specs in it. If you look at my 20 long journal you'll see.
Okay yeah that's what I have in my 5.5 right now and I don't like the random red specs. If it was a darker color and there were alot more it would prob look fine. Just kinda looks outta place when I look at my tank up close IMO. Or maybe I'm just OCD haha
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Old 09-04-2013, 03:10 AM   #22
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Okay yeah that's what I have in my 5.5 right now and I don't like the random red specs. If it was a darker color and there were alot more it would prob look fine. Just kinda looks outta place when I look at my tank up close IMO. Or maybe I'm just OCD haha
I know what you mean, although I tend to not notice it unless I'm right up near the tank or looking at pics.
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Old 09-05-2013, 04:49 PM   #23
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How's flourite? Looking for something that's gonna maintain slopes too. Not like the Eco complete which is very light and easily stirred up. Or is that kinda unavoidable?
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Old 09-05-2013, 08:23 PM   #24
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When I set my 20 Llong up I used mgopm with an eco cap. When I flooded the tank I used an airline hose to flood. IMO the biggest battle was not disturbing the cap.
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Old 09-06-2013, 01:58 AM   #25
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When I set my 20 Llong up I used mgopm with an eco cap. When I flooded the tank I used an airline hose to flood. IMO the biggest battle was not disturbing the cap.
Yeah I have Eco complete if I need it....but looking for something 'heavier'?
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Old 09-07-2013, 01:11 AM   #26
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Like other suggested. Going dirt with Diana's El Natural method won't disappoint you. Just to be sure to take time to prepare the soil, plant A TON at the beginning, and learn not to "touch" the tank too much afterward. My first tank is an El Natural dirt with some add on DIY co2. I tend to keep changing plants locations. It created soil storm every time and killed many of my shrimps😢.
This is how it looks right now:
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Old 09-07-2013, 04:54 AM   #27
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Yeah I keep resisting the urge to buy miracle grow so I can keep reading on this. And figure out what other low light plants I want to add. Awesome tank though! Hoping I can find a piece of driftwood that will compliment the tank like yours does
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Old 09-07-2013, 12:20 PM   #28
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For a natural looking substrate try Safe-T-Sorb. It's cheap, grows plants well, not as messy as MGOPM. Will need to add ferts, root tabs work well. Also it will lower your Kh and Ph.
I went about 3" deep in this 125g. Moving plants around stirs up a little dust but it usually clears up very quickly.
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Old 09-07-2013, 02:50 PM   #29
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There's no chemicals in that? Cuz it's a cleaning agent....for absorbing gas or oil spills. Looks decent though. And another nice tank!
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Old 09-07-2013, 06:49 PM   #30
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Where can I find clay, dolomite, and muriate of potash? Anything else I should add? And I'm assuming miracle grow topsoil is fine to use, or something similar, as long as it's organic of course.
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