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Old 08-30-2013, 11:34 PM   #1
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Bookshelf 6.6 gallon aquarium start.


Alright, so after having a 2.5 gallon tank and going through the hassle of cycling it (not done yet), I've decided to dive into a 6.6 gallon fishless cycle.

I'm pretty new and might need some advice, so chime in, because it's always appreciated.

First off, my water source base test using the API master test kit.

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I tested my kitchen sink (main source) and the bathroom sink water source.

PH = 7.6 (both sources)

High End PH = 8.8 (both sources)

Ammonia = 0.50 ppm (both sources)

Nitrite and Nitrate are both 0 at both sources.
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I got excited, when I found out that the Moss ball was going to be sent in some of Petco's aquarium water, but after almost the full 24 hours, I don't think there is much of a difference.

Treated with Prime:

PH = 7.6
High Range PH = 7.8
Ammonia = 0.25
Nitrite = 0
Nitrate = 0

I was going to ask how much Ammonia to start adding, but after reading about it and thinking that I had gotten the right kind, I did the shake test and it foamed up.

I don't even think my local hardware store will carry it, so I'm kind of bummed about it.
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Old 08-31-2013, 02:43 AM   #2
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Found out tonight, before a water change, that my tank (2.5) looks like it has completed the cycle.

Ammonia = 0 -25 ppm
Nitrite = 0 ppm
Nitrate = 5.0 ppm

So, I took a sponge that was in there out, brought it to the new tank and gave it a squeeze and then brought the sponge back to the 2.5 tank.

Should I also pull some substrate from the 2.5 and put it in and if so, how much?

Thanks for any/all replies.
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It's done. I moved everything into the new tank and the water is really cloudy at this point.

Once it settles down in about 24 hours I'll add my betta into his new home. I actually can't wait for that part, because I think the bigger room will be a nice surprise to him.
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The cloud settled really quickly last night and so did the temp of the tank, so I added Jor into his new environment last night.

To say that he's happy is a vast understatement. He's been busy exploring his new environment.

Luckily, today is his fasting day, so I really could just leave him alone to just go about doing his exploring.

It's been 24 hours since I set up and seeded the tank.

The results:

I don't do PH, because they've been pretty much the same thing for me, so I don't expect them to change at all.

Ammonia = 0.50 ppm (test from tap reads 0.25 ppm)
Nitrite = 0
Nitrate = 0

I was going to do a fishless cycle, but a couple of people on the forums suggested going to fish-in route once again, because I just went through it and know what to expect this go around.

I also have so start thinking/learning about compatible tank mates.
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The cloud settled really quickly last night and so did the temp of the tank, so I added Jor into his new environment last night.

To say that he's happy is a vast understatement. He's been busy exploring his new environment.

Luckily, today is his fasting day, so I really could just leave him alone to just go about doing his exploring.

It's been 24 hours since I set up and seeded the tank.

The results:

I don't do PH, because they've been pretty much the same thing for me, so I don't expect them to change at all.

Ammonia = 0.50 ppm (test from tap reads 0.25 ppm)
Nitrite = 0
Nitrate = 0

I was going to do a fishless cycle, but a couple of people on the forums suggested going to fish-in route once again, because I just went through it and know what to expect this go around.

I also have so start thinking/learning about compatible tank mates.
Are you going to keep the 2.5 up? Be careful of tankmates, I don't know if I would put any other fish in the bookshelf tank betas are pretty aggresive, I would stick with shrimp and snails.
It's strange, I had a few betas in the past and everytime I put small fish in with the Betta the Betta would get sick and die within a few days, this was after qt with the new fish.
Not saying this will happen to you, just saying to be cautious with tank mates.
I used to put a small mirror on the side of the tank and watch my Betta flare up n get all angry at himself lol try it it's so funny.
Good luck with the new tank, those 6.6g are a fun little tank.
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It is not uncommon from what I read for a betta to become stressed from other schooling fish. They prefer to be left alone. Snails should be fine or Amano shrimp should be safe.
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It is not uncommon from what I read for a betta to become stressed from other schooling fish. They prefer to be left alone. Snails should be fine or Amano shrimp should be safe.
Yea I wish I would have known, I loved those betas, haven't had one since, might bring the 6.6 back from the dead and try another Betta, this time with just the Betta.
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Yea, that's what I planned on getting. There will be no other fish in the tank. It's his domain, I just want some fun other little things to go in there with him.

Snails and shrimp were the main thoughts. I just don't know what kind to get.

Someone had said at one point, cherry shrimp, but I'm not sure if he would get along with those.
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I do have cherry shrimp in with my betta. He does go after them. Haven't seen him catch any. Still at least the ten I ordered. But not all betta the same.
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Yup, I had red cherry shrimp in with my Betta and he was way too slow to catch any.
Look in the swap n shop section, most people sell them for about a buck each, unless you can find them at your local fish store but they probably will be more like 2 or 3 dollars per shrimp.
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Yea, I'll try adding them in after the tank gets cycled.

Should I be concerned with over population. I know that both snails and shrimp has a tendency to multiply.
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Second test for this tank and the results... are interesting.

ammonia = 0.50 ppm (Tap tests at 0.25 ppm)
nitrite = 0 ppm
nitrate = 5.0 ppm

Is it possible that my tank could cycle that fast?
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Second test for this tank and the results... are interesting.

ammonia = 0.50 ppm (Tap tests at 0.25 ppm)
nitrite = 0 ppm
nitrate = 5.0 ppm

Is it possible that my tank could cycle that fast?
If you used the media from your old setup the. Yes the cycle will be sped up but your still showing ammo so your not out of the woods yet, as far as the shrimp bio load goes, I don't think you'll have any problems, I had about 100 in my 5 gallon at one point with no problems.
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Yea, I figured that. I just did a water change of about 75%.

I'm assuming I leave the media from the old tank in there awhile? (the filter media and sponge)

I'm also a tad confused. I know that my ammonia straight out of the tap is at 0.25 ppm, so I guess that's what I'm looking for as my base in the tank?
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Yea, I figured that. I just did a water change of about 75%.

I'm assuming I leave the media from the old tank in there awhile? (the filter media and sponge)

I'm also a tad confused. I know that my ammonia straight out of the tap is at 0.25 ppm, so I guess that's what I'm looking for as my base in the tank?
The Bactria in your tank should eat up that ammo quickly from the tap once the colony is strong enough.
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