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Old 08-21-2013, 06:37 PM   #1
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Who ships fish to Hawaii?


After a phone call to the state Quarantine office: I figure out its not hard, and its not too expensive to get fish through quarantine.

Dr Foster & Smith won't ship to the island, for what ever reasons.

Where else can I look to for fish I can't find locally?
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Old 08-21-2013, 06:41 PM   #2
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The cheapest and easiest way is to have your favorite local fish shop do it for you. Most of the ones that do regular imports should be able to get you what you want. Way less hassle for you that way and you won't have to risk DOAs.
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:02 PM   #3
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I'd personally go through breeders rather than the big-box suppliers like DF&S and the like. Use one with a good reputation. The smaller breeders and suppliers typically give more personalize service and care and, especially for breeders, have a bit more at stake. The smaller guys usually depend on word of mouth or refferals and the bad ones usually can't last very long...

How are your figuring on gettig the permits? There can be a delay between application and issuance. For true ease I'd think a year permit would be the way to go but then i've never gotten one of these so don't know exactly how it works. Only gotten issued permits for one-time shipments.
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The link to the Hawaii Quarantine Web site.

Here are details on the Import Program.

Information on the permit application and fee schedule


Plant Quarantine Branch at (808) 832-0566.

It can be confusing.
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I've done it before for other animals.
I guess my question is how do you plan on obtaining the permit for the fish, this has always been a question for me. The permit must state what fish are to be imported (for a one-time shipment) and can take weeks to obtain. If you locate a supply of a particular fish you may not get the permit in time. Or are you just going to get a permit ahead of time? Also you need to be sure the fish is on the conditionally approved list. This kinda makes things a bit more complicated unless you get the year permit which then adds a bunch more $$ to the equation.

When you factor all that in, it may not make it worth it considering what somewhatsocked said above unless you're going after truely special fish.
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After speaking to folks at Quarantine, if I understand correctly. The one-time use $20 permit is for one year. So after getting the permit, you can take up to a year to find your fish.

It works if you have a selected fish, that you are looking for and can't find locally. You'd have to be settled into what fish you want, get the permit and then start looking for a mainland seller willing to do their part. The permit not going to work for an impulse buy, however if you can plan out what you want and can be patient it will work.
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Okay, that's about what I thought.
Wow, fees sure have changed since the last time I checked.
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You also got to check department of agriculture you guys their permit I think to import one time is $50 and $100 for unlimited for a year. But it's has to be approved by the dept of ag. Don't quote me though
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You also got to check department of agriculture you guys their permit I think to import one time is $50 and $100 for unlimited for a year. But it's has to be approved by the dept of ag. Don't quote me though

That's the same guys we've been talking about.
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Department of agriculture and plant and animal quarantine are two different departments. Getting your information from plant and animal quarantine could be wrong then. Cause department of agriculture is the people Who regulate the imports and exports ( what can come in and what cannot). The animal quarantine is the is the people who matains the animals and plants basically a research facility. But they may have say in what can and cannot come in.

Craig from the department of agriculture is the acting head of the aquatic division. He's basically says what can and cannot come in to the island. There is also a board of specialist. These people we may know. I won't say names and say who has pull. But that what I know.

As far as the importing goes you may wanna look on the department of agriculture website for the aquatic species you want and see if they are even allowed. Then I would maybe call Leighton at aquatic imports to see if he can get your fish. If you want to get your own permit I would go down to the department of agriculture and apply for the permit.
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Department of agriculture and plant and animal quarantine are two different departments. Getting your information from plant and animal quarantine could be wrong then. Cause department of agriculture is the people Who regulate the imports and exports ( what can come in and what cannot). The animal quarantine is the is the people who matains the animals and plants basically a research facility. But they may have say in what can and cannot come in.

Craig from the department of agriculture is the acting head of the aquatic division. He's basically says what can and cannot come in to the island. There is also a board of specialist. These people we may know. I won't say names and say who has pull. But that what I know.

As far as the importing goes you may wanna look on the department of agriculture website for the aquatic species you want and see if they are even allowed. Then I would maybe call Leighton at aquatic imports to see if he can get your fish. If you want to get your own permit I would go down to the department of agriculture and apply for the permit.


Interesting, if you follow the links provided previously to the plant quarantine branch website you see that they fall under the hawaii dept of agriculture. You'll also find the permit required to bring in fish/plants/animals and on that form you'll see the address for the plant quarantine branch. Plant quarantine branch is the ones that issue the permits and do the inspections.
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Interesting, if you follow the links provided previously to the plant quarantine branch website you see that they fall under the hawaii dept of agriculture. You'll also find the permit required to bring in fish/plants/animals and on that form you'll see the address for the plant quarantine branch. Plant quarantine branch is the ones that issue the permits and do the inspections.
Yes all will link to the state departments. I am no expert but if I do recall the department of agriculture is down laggoon drive and that's where your apply for the permit. Craig from the department of agriculture is the head of the aquatic division and approves and disapproves of the permit and what can and cannot come in. That's what I know. I had just spoke to Craig about 2 weeks ago about the shrimp importation. Thats how I know about the board. But I could be wrong
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Yes all will link to the state departments. I am no expert but if I do recall the department of agriculture is down laggoon drive and that's where your apply for the permit. Craig from the department of agriculture is the head of the aquatic division and approves and disapproves of the permit and what can and cannot come in. That's what I know. I had just spoke to Craig about 2 weeks ago about the shrimp importation. Thats how I know about the board. But I could be wrong

Like I said, the plant quarantine branch is part of the department of ag. They are the ones that the permits go through. There are many branches of the department of ag, many of which don't have anything at all to do with plant & animal importation, so if you want to bring in plants & animals you should be talking to the plant quarantine branch about getting permits. Next time you talk to Craig (I don't know him) ask him what part of the department of ag he works for.
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Like I said, the plant quarantine branch is part of the department of ag. They are the ones that the permits go through. There are many branches of the department of ag, many of which don't have anything at all to do with plant & animal importation, so if you want to bring in plants & animals you should be talking to the plant quarantine branch about getting permits. Next time you talk to Craig (I don't know him) ask him what part of the department of ag he works for.
Thanks for the clarification lornek I will ask Craig next time I talk to him. I will ask Vernon cause I'll probably see him before I talk with Craig
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That name I saw on the internet as:

Invertebrate and Aquatic Biota Specialist
Hawaii Department of Agriculture
Plant Quarantine Branch
1849 Auiki Street
Honolulu, Hawaii 96819
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