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Old 07-06-2013, 05:37 PM   #1
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Hobbyist made Fertilizer Inquiry


Hey guys & gals,
Since Justin, AKA Rootmedic, is no longer around I am looking for a new business to purchase my liquid fertilizer from. I prefer to buy from a hobbyist as I feel the quality of their product is superior to the big name brand stuff and because I like to support small business. If anybody knows of somebody who has a solid business or is just getting started please let me know here or via PM. Thank you.
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Old 07-06-2013, 05:51 PM   #2
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Try this site

www.AquariumFertilizer.com


They're a small business in California, and I get all of my fertilizers from them.
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Old 07-06-2013, 06:16 PM   #3
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I can't help with the man made tabs as I use dried rabbit poop and my plants are loving it. But I can certainly ship you some if you can't find a local w/a rabbit.
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Old 07-06-2013, 07:13 PM   #4
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I'm sorry I forgot to specify that I'm looking for "liquid" fertilizer. My fault.
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Have you considered purchasing dry fertilizers and then mixing up the required liquid mix yourself? Not only would this allow greater customizability on your fertilizers, but it would also save on shipping costs (water is quite heavy).
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I've actually seen some people selling dry ferts placed in liquid squirt bottles. Just add RO water and you're good to go. I didn't recognize the names though. Which is why I'm asking for help here.
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Which liquids were you already using? What are the active ingredients?

The most common dry products for aquariums:

KNO3- provides nitrogen and some potassium.
KH2PO4- provides P. The dose is so small that the K does not count.
K2SO4- if you do not need to dose much KNO3, then your tank needs another source of K.
CSM+B- Trace minerals. Some people add some chelated iron to this.
Chelated Iron-

Other materials:
GH booster. If your GH is low, then this is a blend of Ca and Mg, often with K. Seachem Equilibrium is one of the GH booster products. Barr's GH booster is similar. But if your GH is stable, and OK for the fish, then water changes may be all you need. Most tap water contains the GH minerals.

Magnesium sulfate- almost always this is Epsom salt. Get it locally if needed, but it is not usually needed. It is an un-balanced way of altering the GH. It has not Ca.
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KNO3, KH2PO4, K2SO4, MgSo4, CSM+B, and I am sure a few others I am forgetting. Need to look.
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I've actually seen some people selling dry ferts placed in liquid squirt bottles. Just add RO water and you're good to go. I didn't recognize the names though. Which is why I'm asking for help here.
I just got some from nilocg here on the forum. CLICK ME
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Anybody have a preference between EI or PPS Pro Liquid Ferts? Reviews?
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Old 07-07-2013, 04:14 PM   #11
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I just got some from nilocg here on the forum. CLICK ME
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I just got mine from him also.

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=373257
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Old 07-07-2013, 06:37 PM   #12
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Solid results?
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Old 07-07-2013, 07:21 PM   #13
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EI and PPS-Pro are different only in the amount of the dosages. They use the same basic chemicals. The advantage of EI, as presented in http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=21944 is that you know than you have no shortage of any nutrient if you use it. That lets you see the effect of growing plants with no nutrient deficiencies. The advantage of PPS-Pro is that, if done just right, you dose only the amounts of each nutrient that the plants need. The "disadvantage" of EI is that, because you are dosing more of each nutrient than the plants will consume, you need to do regular big water changes to remove the excess so it doesn't build up too much. The disadvantage of PPS-Pro is that you have no easy way to know if you are limiting the plants growth by not dosing enough of one or more nutrients.

Perhaps the best method is to start with EI and follow the recommended dosages until you have the plants growing well, the CO2 adjusted to the optimum bubble rate, and a stable tank. Then, start reducing one fertilizer chemical dosage at a time, watching for an adverse effect on the plants, and doing this for each chemical until you find the optimum dosage of each. If you do this you don't need nearly as many or as big water changes, and you never restrict the plants growth by under dosing.
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+1 nilocg
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Purchased the PPS Pro Fert's from nilocg. Thanks for the advice.
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