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Old 06-11-2013, 11:52 AM   #1
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Siamese Algae Eaters keep dying


This is my third pair of Siamese algae eaters I bought and it always seems after a few nights, I will find them in the morning dead, usually with their eyes eaten out. I have about 7 juvenile black paradise fish in this 75 g planted tank, plenty of rocks and plants and wood to hide around. Are my SAE's dying due to water conditions or are they being killed? I drip acclimate them for three hours, ammonia and phosphorus levels are fine, don't know about pH, but I thought SAE's were supposed to be hardy fish. This is extremely frustrating
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Old 06-11-2013, 12:03 PM   #2
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Test your ammonia nitrite nitrate and ph and go from there.

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Old 06-11-2013, 01:28 PM   #3
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Please provide the ammonia, nitrate, nitride level, ph and temp

what size are they?
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Old 06-11-2013, 10:55 PM   #4
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Ammonia is less than .25 and nitrites are zero. Nitrates I'm unsure of. Ph is around 7.4. The SAE's I bought were about 2 inches long, definitely juveniles. They would be swimming happily around exploring but I noticed the paradise fish were nipping at them and chasing them. I thought eventually they would get used to them but I found them dead three days later with their eyes torn out.

I'm thinking the only way I can introduce new fish into that tank is to add dither fish to distract them
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Old 06-11-2013, 11:16 PM   #5
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your ammonia should be zero, and from the looks of it, I think its your paradise fish causing the problem. However, I am not sure as I have no knowledge or experience keeping paradise fish.

Edit: okay, just did a quick research. paradise fish seem to be semi-aggressive fish and are territorial. there's your problem.
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i would think twice about adding any fish that are smaller than the paradise fish as the result would likely prove to be the same
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Paradise fish, typical night hunter.

They go for the eyes of other similar size fish.
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Old 06-21-2013, 08:45 PM   #8
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Okay I put the fish in another tank. This tank is a 20 g with nothing but plants and a african giant shrimp. 0 nitrites 0 ammonia. I've been running this tank with a fluval 205 for 3 months now. Dripped acclimated two SAE's for two hours. First one died after two days. Second one died after five days. I'm not sure if they starved to death or something, but everywhere I've read they've said SAE's are supposed to be hardy fish and all the SAE's I've bought from this fish store have died. Either a bad stock or I'm not supposed to have these fish I guess.
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Old 06-22-2013, 02:17 AM   #9
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I have the same problem with otos and I cant figure it out... I started thinking they got algae overdoes lol. I don't have an algae problem anymore so I just avoid buying any... but I do really like em
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Paradise fish, typical night hunter.

They go for the eyes of other similar size fish.
That's extremely disturbing... & nice to know.
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Old 06-22-2013, 09:22 PM   #11
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I don't really have algae problems either but I just like Siamese algae eaters. My friends have a couple and they are huge now, they are like otos but with great personalities. Hopefully I can find a better source or maybe I'll wait until I buy more...maybe I'll have better luck with the next shipment.
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Old 06-22-2013, 11:39 PM   #12
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Lets have a picture of those SAEs
Most people have issues keeping Otos, given the stock, same goes for SAE or any fish.
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Old 07-12-2013, 05:55 PM   #13
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Okay so I think it was just a bad stock I was buying. I bought another two a week and a half ago and they're still going strong
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I put "paradise fish" up there with tiger barbs , and gouramis. All pita fish lol

Good luck with these new ones.
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