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Old 05-07-2013, 10:38 PM   #1
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AquaFarm Kickstarter: Self-Cleaning Fish Tank That Grows Food


Have any of you seen this? I fear this may lead to quite a few fish deaths.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...ef=most-funded
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Old 05-07-2013, 11:21 PM   #2
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Um so what do you feed the fish? And what about heating?

I can't believe people are that dumb....
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Old 05-07-2013, 11:37 PM   #3
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I feel like this isn't a bad idea, just has some gaps thanks to these guys not being fish experts. This is what you get when a couple of schmucks think they have a million dollar idea and don't do their research!

Now, throw in a heater and feed the fish, it could possibly grow some herbs.
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Old 05-07-2013, 11:40 PM   #4
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One little Betta won't make enough nutrients for the plants. And if you put it somewhere it will get enough light to grow basil i imagine the fish might cook. And do you have to take the top off to feed the fish? Or do you just wait for it to die and decompose to feed the plants?
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In fairness, they do provide water conditioner and fish food with the kit, and they do recommend using Betta fish. I'm most concerned with "There is no need to clean the water because of the plants."

http://store.backtotheroots.com/prod...aquaponics.htm
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That and bettas need to be in tropical temps. And the point made about boiling in the sun is a very valid one.
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I feel like this isn't a bad idea, just has some gaps thanks to these guys not being fish experts....Now, throw in a heater and feed the fish, it could possibly grow some herbs.
I'm sure they stopped short of doing it right due to costs. Something that happens all too often in our world today. On the plus side if it inspires people to get more involved in Aquaponics then there is some good to this.

As far as one Beta driving a few herb plants, I think it could work. I got this from 4 small Oranda Goldfish from my Aquaponic system.


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I'm sure they stopped short of doing it right due to costs. Something that happens all too often in our world today. On the plus side if it inspires people to get more involved in Aquaponics then there is some good to this.

As far as one Beta driving a few herb plants, I think it could work. I got this from 4 small Oranda Goldfish from my Aquaponic system.


Wow.
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I'd love to do aquaponics. I don't have the place to do it right now though. Not on a large scale. I'd like to do one large enough that I can harvest the fish and have enough going on to grow a greens garden in a green house through out the year.
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Old 05-08-2013, 04:09 AM   #10
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You really need to get maybe two IBC tanks and run at least 4 - 4x4' beds to get anything close be self sufficient for 2 to 4 people. While very cool idea, without a green house and living in the Sun-Belt the cost/effort just doesn't justify the project.

For me it makes more sense to grow my hobby plants than veggies in my system. After I 'harvest' my Anubias crop, I'll be tring Crypts.
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Good thing is, where I live, there's plenty of coldwater fish options and a lot of greens do well down to pretty cold temps. So in the winter, with a little heating, I think I could stay in the greens all year. The fish would be just fine. Perch, bluegill, trout, ect. It's definitely something I want to pursue when we get a larger piece of land and new house. I was planning on having a smallish green house anyways, might as well throw a 500-1000g tank in there too and raise some fish...lol
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There are a lot of cheap, gimmicky ideas that raise lots of money on Kickstarter. All you have to do there is make a slick video with some trendy idea that the hipsters like and the money will just pour in.
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No such thing as a "small closed-loop" system that is maintenance free. If you wish for a maintenance free aquarium, keep your fish in a large pond, lake, or river.

Here is my Kickstarter idea.
Raise fish in an environment they thrive in.
Raise plants in an environment they thrive in.
Use fish tank water (from water changes) to water plants.

I'm pretty sure this isn't a new idea (at all).
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No such thing as a "small closed-loop" system that is maintenance free. If you wish for a maintenance free aquarium, keep your fish in a large pond, lake, or river.

Here is my Kickstarter idea.
Raise fish in an environment they thrive in.
Raise plants in an environment they thrive in.
Use fish tank water (from water changes) to water plants.

I'm pretty sure this isn't a new idea (at all).
I like the other idea better but thanks for trying.
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Good thing is, where I live, there's plenty of coldwater fish options and a lot of greens do well down to pretty cold temps. So in the winter, with a little heating, I think I could stay in the greens all year. The fish would be just fine. Perch, bluegill, trout, ect. It's definitely something I want to pursue when we get a larger piece of land and new house. I was planning on having a smallish green house anyways, might as well throw a 500-1000g tank in there too and raise some fish...lol

It's the lighting/pump equip. cost and ongoing maint. vs. amt. of veggies grow is were the disconnect is. Cold water fish are a benefit as due to lower energy cost in not adding heat. Even some green house greenhouse hydroponics systems in Northern climate supplement Sunlight with Electric lighting.

Not being negative, I enjoy my small scale system. Just sharing some thoughts of what I've learned along the way.
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