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Old 05-05-2013, 06:14 PM   #1
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What's the best Siphon? Python or aqeuon?


I need a siphon that hooks up to my sink... Petsmart sells an Aqeuon one, and I know about the Python. Which one is the better product? Thanks
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Old 05-05-2013, 07:19 PM   #2
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I have the Aqueon and am not overly pleased with it. It is slow to drain a tank even with the faucet wide open and I am not able to even pull up debris on the surface of the substrate.
I have also had the hose come loose from the end with the gravel washer on me 2 or 3 times so far. Makes for a big mess when you are moving from one tank to another and the hose blows off the end due to the pressure on the hose and the barbs and the clamp not being able to hold the hose tight enough. I guess I could go get some hose clamps from HD or Lowes and see if that would fix that issue.

In my opinion I would not use the Aqueon. Spend the little bit of extra cash and order a real Python siphon. I think you would be much happier.
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Old 05-05-2013, 08:17 PM   #3
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I have an Aqueon and I agree, it doesn't pick much gunk up off the substrate but I've never had a hose come off.

I currently cheat and use a 400 gph pump to drain the sump on my 90 gallon so I don't use it as a siphon and it's magnificent. The pump sits in the sump, the hose connects to the sink as usual and I bypass the running water part of the ordeal.
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I have two Pythons they do a pretty good job with draining and vaccuming

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+1 for Python. Mine works wonderfully
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Old 05-05-2013, 09:39 PM   #6
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i have a python and it works but have never used aqueon as comparison. but dont kink the cord... if you do it is permanent and may slow things down. and it is VERY easy to make a permanent kink mark

anyone figure out how to unkink it or an easy way to avoid kinks?
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I have had my python for about 10 years. I only needed to replace the sink tee connection once due to over tightening and cracking the swivel hose connection. Other than that its durable. Suction is great. If you have higher water pressure it sucks even more. I hook mine up to my outside hose bibb in the summer. If I am wasting the water anyways I figure I might as well let my plants have the water.

Although I have never used the Aqueon, I was recommended the python 10 years ago and that's what I went with. No complaints here. I even added an extra 20 feet with some vinyl tubing from Home Depot. No change in suction. And no kinks. My hose is always bunched up in storage. I always unravel it before using it though.
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I have the Aqueon and I like it. The biggest factor is the water pressure of your faucet. I'm on the 3rd floor of an apartment complex so its not the best. But at my parents house its was a big difference in the pressure thus I had better suction.
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I have had my present Python for about 15 years. The vinyl hose is still soft and pliable!
Great product and American made.
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I work at a corporate fish store and we have used both the aqueon and python to clean the tanks and I must say the python preformed MUCH better! After years it eventually broke (I think someone stepped on a piece and broke it) so we had to get a new one, unfortunately we stopped carrying the python brand so we are currently using the aqueon... Major downgrade, the suction doesn't compare and the quality of the hose is awful it's kinks like crazy .... So, I would for sure recommend the python! Hope this helps!
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Drains 3x faster and fills faster.
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I've used a python for a few months and I own an aqueon. Honestly, I'm not really pleased with either. You waste a ton of water to drain water slowly. Though the python is much faster than the aqueon. I used to use a mag5 to drain too. Definitely faster than both, but now I just use 1" vinyl tubing and suck the tubing. It drains just as fast if not faster than the mag5 and doesn't use electricity. Plus if you have a pump and sand substrate, the chances on sand getting into your pump and messing up the impeller is great. I drain my 210 within a few minutes and it sucks up poo from the substrate. Refilling is another story.

Here's a picture of my PVC drain hooked up to the tubing.




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To add to this. What is your purpose. Is it to clean your tank or to just simply drain. If cleaning (vacuum gravel) I don't see the two pictured options as a benefit to you. If just draining, they consume less resources and are cheaper.
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:03 AM   #14
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Good point, but if you have a planted tank, I don't think vacuuming the substrate would be a good idea. You might destroy your plants root system if they're well established. Besides, the plants do what you normally do when you vacuum the substrate, so basically, there's no benefit to do so.

With the PVC thing I have, it picks up all the debris, waste, and leftover food (if there is any) easily as it is being drained with a large ID tube

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anyone figure out how to unkink it or an easy way to avoid kinks?
u try bracing it with a few wraps of duct tape?
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