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Old 05-02-2013, 11:09 PM   #1
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DHG not doing so good


I was just wondering if anyone knew what i was doing wrong here. I have a 15gal tall tank, eco-complete substrate that goes form 3'' to about 6" in the back and DIY CO2 system thats putting out 2bps. I'm also using Nutrafin plant gro, my lights are 2 10watt 6500k bulbs. Ive have the DHG in the tank for about a week now, and its slowly going downhill. The only thing i can think of is maybe I don't have enough light and the only lights I can find are these http://www.petsmart.com/product/inde...AvailInUS%2FNo but I cant find out what the kelvin rating is for them.


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Old 05-03-2013, 02:17 AM   #2
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You are currently using two 10 watt CFL bulbs, correct?

The other bulbs that you have linked are incandescent bulbs, and will not be an upgrade to what you currently have.

You mentioned that you only had your Dwarf Hairgrass for a week; it may have been grown emersed and is now adapting to its submersed environment.
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Old 05-03-2013, 12:30 PM   #3
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You are currently using two 10 watt CFL bulbs, correct?

The other bulbs that you have linked are incandescent bulbs, and will not be an upgrade to what you currently have.

You mentioned that you only had your Dwarf Hairgrass for a week; it may have been grown emersed and is now adapting to its submersed environment.
the bulbs that I have now are 10 watt mini florescent bulbs http://www.walmart.com/ip/Lights-Of-...-Pets/10448675
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im not sure if it helps a lot but when i planted my dhg i really spent time breaking the plant down into much smaller tufts of grass and then took my tweezers and seeded the entire area like i was putting in hair plugs

once the grass had some growth i trimmed the lawn and it helped the grass spread by sending out runners instead of growing straight up
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Old 05-03-2013, 12:51 PM   #5
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im not sure if it helps a lot but when i planted my dhg i really spent time breaking the plant down into much smaller tufts of grass and then took my tweezers and seeded the entire area like i was putting in hair plugs

once the grass had some growth i trimmed the lawn and it helped the grass spread by sending out runners instead of growing straight up
The ones on the right side of the tank are from petsmart and Im not even sure how to plant the stuff its being held down by toothpicks. The left side came from a pot at a local pet store and it has long roots that i planted down in the substrate.
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i planted it submerged and not using the dry start method

trimmed the roots down

tweezers were most helpful

Darkblade could be right though and it could just be adjusting to being underwater
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i planted it submerged and not using the dry start method

trimmed the roots down

tweezers were most helpful

Darkblade could be right though and it could just be adjusting to being underwater
I hope they are just adjusting to being underwater i really want a planted tank.
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I had the same problem when I planted my tank, the DHG it started to die off then new growth started about 2 weeks or so. Im sure the plant will come back, just watch for green coming in another week or so.
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I had the same problem when I planted my tank, the DHG it started to die off then new growth started about 2 weeks or so. Im sure the plant will come back, just watch for green coming in another week or so.
yea ill leave them in until I'm 100% positive that they are dead, hopefully they come come back. Will the Nutrafin plant gro be enough for them to live off of?
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how tall is your tank? there might not be enough light reaching the plant. If the plane was grown emersed, then it will probably melt and then produce new hairgrass.
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Old 05-05-2013, 01:34 PM   #11
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im not sure if it helps a lot but when i planted my dhg i really spent time breaking the plant down into much smaller tufts of grass and then took my tweezers and seeded the entire area like i was putting in hair plugs

once the grass had some growth i trimmed the lawn and it helped the grass spread by sending out runners instead of growing straight up

your plants are left in fairly large klumps which leaves a fair bit of gap in between the roots and likely the substrate being intertwined into itself. Its best to separate them into smaller individual portions where the roots are directly feeding in the substrate.

I also took the liberty to trim the grass down into about 1/3. i know in lawn care it is ill advised as you only cut 1/3 at a time but these are established rooted plants and the goal was to return the plant's energies into getting established.
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your plants are left in fairly large klumps which leaves a fair bit of gap in between the roots and likely the substrate being intertwined into itself. Its best to separate them into smaller individual portions where the roots are directly feeding in the substrate.

I also took the liberty to trim the grass down into about 1/3. i know in lawn care it is ill advised as you only cut 1/3 at a time but these are established rooted plants and the goal was to return the plant's energies into getting established.
Is it too late to seperate them?
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I planted teh same DHG from petsmart. Will fill in much better if planted in small little "plugs" with tweezers. Separate them into small little bunches and grab the top of the roots with tweezers. Stick them deep into the gravel and pull back up level to straighten out the roots somewhat. Then I packed the gravel back in around each one with fingers. Yea its as tedious as it sounds
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It will grow even if you plant it as a solid clump. Spreading it out more by the methods suggested just allows the carpet to fill in more quickly and evenly. After being in the tank for a couple of days you will see lines of new leaves popping up in the surrounding substrate.

DHG is a quick growing plant and likes a bit more CO2 and nutrients (possibly light also, although I wouldn't call it a high light plant) than your typical crypts etc. although they certainly benefit from nutrients also.

Nutrafin Plant Gro will not provide your plants with enough nutrients. It is more of a trace additive for elements your plants need in tiny amounts (iron, copper, etc).
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how tall is your tank? there might not be enough light reaching the plant. If the plane was grown emersed, then it will probably melt and then produce new hairgrass.
from the top of my substrate to the light is about 15" and i think its melting but im seeing really green hairgrass comming back
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