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Old 04-27-2013, 11:12 PM   #91
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Window sill shrimp tank idea


Yeah ... The LFS water may be part of your problem.


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Old 04-27-2013, 11:20 PM   #92
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Ammonia 0 nitrite .50 nitrate between 10 and 20. PH 8 (ph out of tap is 8 I don't fight)
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Old 04-27-2013, 11:57 PM   #93
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Lol I guess the mystery is solved then. I didn't know you couldn't just toss their water in. I assumed they where alive in the lfs tank I figured mixing that water and tank water wasn't a big deal since I'm acclimating them in the same mix.
This is my first foray into non feeder shrimp so all these tidbits are very helpful. The drip method very much so. I had no clue...
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Old 04-28-2013, 12:29 AM   #94
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Most shrimp keepers have killed many shrimp while learning. The secret is not to give up and soon you'll do fine.
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:50 PM   #95
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Update:

Ammonia 0
Nitrite 1.0
Nitrate 5
Gh (test strip) 120
Kh (test strip) 180
Ph 8.0

The wait continues....
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Old 04-30-2013, 06:07 AM   #96
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A special big thank you to Soothing Shrimp for the duck weed.
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Old 05-01-2013, 11:49 PM   #97
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Update:

Duckweed has been in tank for 2 days.

Ammonia 0
Nitrite: 1
Nitrate: 20
Other parameters unchanged.
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:59 AM   #98
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Update:

Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 1
Nitrate: less than 5
Other parameters unchanged.

I'm not understanding why nitrite won't drop but nitrate builds then drops builds than drops. It's like I'm loosing my nitrifying bacteria over and over. Almost like they colonize then collapse. I don't know what would cause that.
I am doing a water change after this post.
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:02 PM   #99
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Do you have an ammonia source at this point?

Because if you currently have an ammonia source and the ammonia is being converted to nitrite, even if nitrite levels stays the same, it seems some nitrite is being converted to nitrate.

Also plants will absorb both ammonia and nitrates, so the cycle could be not moving at all because there isn't enough ammonia to go around
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:10 PM   #100
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Aluka,
I have about 10 pond snails in there. The volume of the tank is 2.5 gallons but if you account the displacement of the substrate the filter plants and rocks its more like 1.8 or 2 gallons.
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You obviously underestimate the power of duckweed lol, they suck up nitrate and ammonia like crazy.

But I'm not sure why ur cycle is stalled, that is the only logical reason I can come up with.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:35 PM   #102
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Haha duckweed is amazing stuff.
I don't know what to say about the cycle. I thought my test kit was bad so i went and grabbed strips and verified my test kit with them. They match results. I have bio max from well established tank inside the tank I have snails in tank I put fish flakes in it. Nitrites climb nitrates drop.
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Old 05-04-2013, 12:47 AM   #103
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Idle thought. Is it possible that plants are absorbing to much ammonia possibly causing the bacteria to relitivly starve and collapse the cycle?
Feel free to pick it apart
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Old 05-04-2013, 05:25 AM   #104
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Duckweed is fast but the denitrifying bacteria should be faster. Have you tried completely overloading the system with ammonia? Either lots of fish food or just add some ammonia. I take the second route for my fishless cycles. I wonder if the fish food you added was eaten by the snails and therefore you only got a short ammonia spike which translated to a short nitrite spike. Maybe this doesn't make sense but I'm just throwing out theories.
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Old 05-04-2013, 05:44 AM   #105
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I tried doing a window sill tank here in seattle, and I still had to cover the side that faced the window to completely block out the little sun we get. Shrimp did well but after a few weeks I pulled it down because I didn't like the fluctuation it was having.
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