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Old 04-30-2013, 03:20 AM   #1
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My First 20L


So after seeing so many awesome 20L on here I've been going insane wanting one. So I bided my time for petco to come along and give me a sale and the sale happened BANG! I've got a 20L

I haven't officially moved the tank inside yet, but I thought that I would get some pictures up. I want this to be a super early start journal so I can watch everything and maybe learn from all of the awesome experience on here.

The tank still sits in the car...I've been busy with finals and all that great stuff and trying to write some papers (taking a break from them right now to start this journal)


I got a deal that I couldn't refuse on FloraMax (which I've been using in other shrimp tanks. I'm not sure the amount of rooted plants I will be using but this substrate seems to work out for my corkscrews and such in my other tanks coupled with root tabs so yea...


Collected some things that I will be needing here very soon


I got a really good deal on some Riccia so I ordered it...it will kinda press me to get this going...WOW this stuff is great looking!




And I got some wood from an awesome RAOK -- It's a lot for a 20L so I will be cutting it and redistributing the love once I get placement and such figured out -- MAN I love doing RAOKS



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That's it for the pictures for now...so here's the plans....so far
  • De-rimming the top rim from the 20L
  • Cutting the Wood
  • Buying some type of stand / deciding if I want to use the breakfast bar that can't really be used for breakfast as a tank stand...(although I'm thinking with a stand I can go canister filter)
Things I'm still finalizing for purchase
  • Light
  • Co2 setup (paintball or regular, I guess it depends on the stand situation)
  • Lights
  • Filtration (again dependent on the stand/breakfast bar question)
  • Other plants for the tank (I really wanna put some moss in there with the Riccia with what I have planned)
  • Still trying to decide cardinal tetras or yellow shrimp for livestock
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Anyone know how long I can leave Riccia in that container while I get this rollin? I've got some of the larger kind floating around a tank but that is active with shrimp, filtration, etc

I've been looking at a lot of threads so far on de-rimming and any other tips would be greatly welcomed

Thanks for lookin and your suggestions are always welcome!!!!!
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Old 04-30-2013, 02:57 PM   #2
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Looks like it will be a cool build, good luck.
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Old 04-30-2013, 04:44 PM   #3
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Thanks! I've got a few more shots, I have the tank where I kinda want to put it....

Almost a PERFECT fit


But I want to go rimless with this and hindsight is 20/20 I should of checked the inner upper corner seals. Looks like I will have to do some corner seal work if I want to keep this as a rimless....



I'm contemplating hitting up petco and seeing if they have some with a better inner upper corner seal job, there's only one here where I wouldn't have to reseal the corner if I remove this rim

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I've decided to do a water test on this tank if It's sound I will figure out if I will go through with the de-rimming or not

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Old 05-02-2013, 03:59 PM   #4
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I've decided to leave the rim on the tank due to the location that it will be in (pictures soon) I just don't want to run the risk of the cats possibly cutting their paws on it, if it had a dedicated stand that the cats couldn't get up on I would pull off the rim.

I've got some things which are in shipment and should be arriving Saturday so I can start the cycle process. I've only got 1,000-1,200 more words to write for the spring semester and then I am FREE MWAHAHAHAHA

Be looking for a potential update tonight! I know that I have to do some stopping on the way home tonight to pick up a few more things for the tank... I should have the light coming in today too (I didn't go all out with the light, looking for something that will keep this pretty low tech since I'm planning on shrimps)
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Old 05-02-2013, 05:40 PM   #5
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I'm looking forward to seeing this tank develop! Are you still going to use the breakfast bar? I really like the idea of it because you could scape it to where it is visually appealing from both sides, but it may also be hard hiding the cords and such.
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Old 05-02-2013, 06:00 PM   #6
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Hey Aqua!

Yea I am still planning on using the breakfast bar which is why for now I have to leave the tank rimless until I see what the cat's interest level is going to be. I won't be putting any livestock in for a while and I don't mind waiting while it cycles up to tear it down and rework it to take the rim off...it all just depends on the cats I guess...they do like to come up onto my 55 every now and then to investigate so I just want to make sure
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:23 PM   #7
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Sponge filters came in today...messing around with initial placement

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Old 05-04-2013, 06:42 AM   #8
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Big Update Time!!!!!!

So yea, I got a little bit of time and I went to work tonight. It was driving me mad and I was worried about my riccia dying some of it started to, so I HAD to get to work...I hate seeing plants that aren't healthy

Anyway.....

After my initial setup I tweaked it a bit to try to avoid so much splash on the light so I lowered it a bit as you can see here...all rinsed and the initial few drops are in there



A rear view pre-airline running, notice the black cable on the left, that's for my in tank thermometer



A general idea in case I have airline issues (which I did I needed to put in a pressure dial in the middle line) Left, Middle, Right, Airline



Airline work made neater, still not sure how I'm going to hide this on this side



Front view of the hoses, almost hidden, notice the line for the sensor is tucked behind so if I have to change out equipment tubes for any reason I won't have to pull the thermometer



Man I forgot how dirty Floramax is.....



Burying the sensor



Base layer down, next up rock work



Placing sponges at substrate level



Creating a cave for planned bristlenoses



Using other rocks to support the cave on both sides to prevent movement of the walls



Back of cave support



Living room to kitchen view



Kitchen to living room....a breakfast bar well used



Thanks for dropping by for the big update Any comments/suggestions are welcomed...I know I want to add a few more plants, trying to find a short height runner style plant if you guys have any suggestions I'd love to hear them
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Still cycling on this tank, I'll get some pictures soon. The Riccia that I ordered as a mat has really taken off glad I ordered as much as I did....

Looking for plant suggestions that will be low height growing plants, shrimp friendly, and low-medium light friendly with no co2

Any suggestions are very appreciated and as always thanks for stopping by!
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Old 05-09-2013, 04:13 PM   #10
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Nice startup, I like the pleco cave!
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Man thats one heck of a sponge filter wall! haha

Looks good so far.
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Old 05-16-2013, 02:49 AM   #12
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Checked tonight, still cycling
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Old 05-24-2013, 06:16 AM   #13
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Having a small issue with hair algae not sure where it's coming from...levels show that I'm close to ending the cycle process though
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Old 05-28-2013, 06:27 AM   #14
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Treated the algae and it's now white...looks like levels are leveling out as well Almost ready to add a few more plants and start seeding some snails
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Cool pleco cave but isnt it a bit small?
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