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Old 04-23-2013, 04:43 AM   #46
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first timer here. Iwagumi project


Vitinjou,

It sure is well explained. I'm sure you've seen or heard of nutrient solutions for the planted aquarium at your local fish store. I suggest to avoid such products and purchase dry nutrients by the lb. There's another member by the name of niloc that sells them at a very cheap price. A bag of each potassium nitrate, potassium phosphate, and plantex CSM+Boron will last you more than a year... all for less than $25.
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Old 04-25-2013, 10:20 PM   #47
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okay... now, seriously, these HC can be so hard to grow. I'm not sure what im doing wrong lol. advices please?







they look pretty bad. and i dont think theyre coming back
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:45 PM   #48
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You got no fish in there or inverts right? Crank that CO2 up. It can help maintain good levels so HC can transition better. Make sure you have a decent flow on the HC. But melting screams CO2 issue.

Also, you might think about switching lights to 6500ks. 8000k will work but its not going to deliver useable energy as efficiently as the 6500k's as they provide more light within the 400-700 nm range. HC will need medium lighting to grow nicely. I use on my 10 gallon a cheapo odyssea 2x18W T5HO you can find it on amazon for plants. Works fine, though I have it raised a bit higher since the light was too high I could not support the CO2/O2 levels necessary.

Follow EI or some kind of dosing regime if you can, then its all about CO2. IMO work load is like 1% light, 2% ferts, 97% CO2.

P.S. Dry start the HC! Will help em root better! Also, 0 algae.

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Old 04-25-2013, 11:47 PM   #49
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yea no fauna, yet. can i overdose on excel in addition to the co2 as well?
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Old 04-26-2013, 01:06 AM   #50
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no need for both. i would up the co2 and think of maybe adding flourish.
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Old 04-28-2013, 03:45 AM   #51
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meh...i increased co2 outflow and the light is still the same 8000k 15 watts. and i see no signs of stabilizing or improving...this is discouraging lol.

i remember my first tank last year. i pay no mind to it and planted flora and put it the tetras and care little to nothing and everything was doing great haha. plants grew with no issues
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:56 AM   #52
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Wouldn't the HC spread to the other substrate?
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Old 04-30-2013, 12:55 AM   #53
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so far, my concern is not spreading to the other substrate. im more concerned about it spreading at all lol...

its actually pretty sad.
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Old 04-30-2013, 01:56 AM   #54
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how do people even plant them submerged? they just wont stay down! lol and the roots in where the potties you buy them from are so short after removing the sponge thingy
Break paper clips in half and use them to stake the plant into the substrate. Then remove after a while.
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Old 04-30-2013, 01:57 AM   #55
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Here are some really good reads I have come across that have helped me greatly:

http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...2&postcount=16
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Old 04-30-2013, 02:46 AM   #56
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I didn't read all the posts. But I did notice you were experiencing melting with the hc. I'd definitely crank up the co2 and cut down the light time to just 6-8 hrs

Avoid ferts while the plants are adjusting. Hc won't be able to absorb the ferts fast enough until they're fully climatized and rooted

To prevent algae add fast growing plants - it'll absorb the excess fert

I was in the same situation as you before - my hc melted and I started over w dry start
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Old 04-30-2013, 02:48 AM   #57
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Do you guys think my hc can still come back?
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Old 04-30-2013, 08:22 PM   #58
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Do you guys think my hc can still come back?
you got a lot of maintenance work - you have to clip the dead leaves, pick out the cotten / stringy stuff...

and if the stems are still "green" you have a chance of recovering, in the meantime try cranking up the co2 + lower light time and see if the melting stops.
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