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Old 04-21-2013, 02:56 AM   #1
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Shrimp Substrate (and a few other questions :) )


Hello everyone.

I'm getting closer to my project and I'm picking brains through PM but I'm trying to figure out what I'm doing for Substrate

The local Petco carries: This Which I have right now in my PFR and Wild Type tanks and they seem to be breeding and molting alright (plants seem to be doing well as well)

However the new tanks I am looking at I want to try to expand my shrimping I'm looking to get some of the OEBT, Yellows, Pumpkins RCS, and maybe something else that gets my attn. (oh my project is going to be large I've got a wall in my apt begging for fish tanks and it's in my office MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA ... but I digress)

So Substrate question. Will the petco Floramax work?
Substrate Color: I know that dark colors breed vibrant shrimp Will deep brown/red also work ?

Moving Along

I know that I will most likely be using T8 bulbs (since my setups will all be 10-15 galloners) and there's so much conflicting information about CO2 and shrimp.

Should I CO2 (I'll be growing mostly mosses and some other assorted plants in these tanks) can I use excel or CO2 booster instead? My primary goal is happy shrimp, but I also want happy vibrant plants too

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A lot of peeps I've been talking to are using sponge/air filters in their shrimp tanks. Will CO2 then be defeated and should I then use the liquid type?

Wow wall of text crit, I've been looking around and PMming a lot of people (Yall are awesome)

Any help yall can give me would be AWESOME!!!! I'm going to be placing the order for the tanks soon and the filters soon and starting to get everything around, its evolving but I want to make sure that I have things lined up
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Old 04-21-2013, 03:06 AM   #2
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Substrate doesn't "breed" vibrant shrimp. Darker colors do cause Neos - particularly red ones - to show up best.

Floramax will likely be fine. You can use any color you desire. Anything from light pool filter sand to ADA Aquasoil Amazonia.

If you're only growing moss and simple plants? Ditch the CO2. Excel can be deadly in an invert tank if used improperly, so you should use it sparingly if you think it's necessary. You'd be better off use going with plants that don't require any special care so you don't have to risk potentially harming your shrimp.
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Old 04-21-2013, 03:07 AM   #3
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Hi and its encouraging to see all the questions posed. Its obvious you are wanting to do this right and have given this much consideration

Shrimp tanks require a certain equilibrium between the water source, the relative parameters and the native water parameters for the species of shrimp targeted.

R/O is a blank slate which requires remineralization to ideal levels

Tap may or may not be suitable to keep dwarf shrimp depending largely on the locale

If you are not after any LOW PH species like taiwan bees, simple gravel would suffice. Lets get an idea of the water parameters (PH/GH/kh) you are working with and go from there.

If you are not experienced with CO2 management in a planted tank, its likely best to avoid using it in the shrimp tank for now. High tech will bring a whole new set of problems and raise the overhead well beyond merely how to keep shrimp alive.
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when i had oebt i did a mix of pool filter sand and black sand that way you still have a pretty dark substrate so they stay dark but with the light color in you can still see them. my oebt got so dark they looked almost back so when i had them on fluval shrimp stratum all you would see was little orange eyes bouncing around. tiger shrimp like a nutral ph so no need to get a buffer just remember to keep the temps below 70 and you will do well with them.
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That's good to know about the substrate color. I wonder if it's because they stand out that they appear darker.

Awesome to know about the excel and co2...that eliminates a crap ton from my budget

So that means I can def get away with T8

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Thanks -- yea I've had PFR and Wild types and the PFR have been like jack rabbits, I had about 10 and now I'm pushing 25-30 (they move too fast to count) I've been using tap water that's neutral across the board out of the faucet (7.5, 0, 0, 0)

As for GH/kh no one around here sells a kit or it and I've been a bit lazy about ordering online. The local fish stores/big box stores don't even test for it with water samples

As for shrimp, I know eventually I want to branch out (once I get more room) but I'm planning on ~8-10 tanks so I'm figuring that I can have a tank and then a tank to move the colors/patterns to that I don't like to grow out and see how they do...
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