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Old 04-06-2013, 04:49 AM   #1
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I'm dry feet shopping because I want to do this correctly and give my plants what they need. I'm using this store http://www.aquariumfertilizer.com/in...ditU=1&Regit=2
as it was highly recommended but as I look through their options it's a hair confusing. I was told there is real no all in one fert mix but they have a macro/micro mix that claims to be near that. Also the difference between po3 and po4 confuses me. They are both potasium so why do they sell them seperate?
My tank as it stand now is 36"l 18" deep 12" wide. I have 3 42w daylight 6500k cfl spiral bulbs with 10.5 brooder domes. A 24" Hamilton cfl 6700k and DYI co2 2 2liter bottle set up. I have hamilton light on for 12 hrs brooders on for middle 6 I have a power head on one side and canister filter outlet on other side (good circulation). I have tons of root tabs (1 every 1 1/2) in the substrate which is a 50/50 mix Eco complete and gravel. I dose flourish two cap fulls daily also excel 2 cap fulls.
I'm basically asking what dry frets do I need? My amazons were initially going nuts, pearling like no ones business are now suffering with pin holes new leaves and buckling from the middle out and others going translucent.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Anyone have input?
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Potassium is K
PO4 is phospahte
N is nitrogen

Read THIS and it should answer your questions of what to buy

If you buy these you should be set...

Plantex CSM+B
Potassium Nitrate KN03
Monopotassium Phosphate KH2PO4
Potassium Sulphate K2S04
Gh booster (only if you have soft water)
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:26 AM   #4
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I was told there is real no all in one fert mix but they have a macro/micro mix that claims to be near that.
I would advise against getting an all in one fertilizer mix. As you are already aware, there cannot really be a "one size fits all" fertilization solution for different sized aquariums. There are just too many factors to account for from aquarium to aquarium.

Getting separate chemicals is the best way, since it offers the highest degree of customizability. Of course, it may be a little more difficult to work with at first, but you will soon get the hang of it.

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Also the difference between po3 and po4 confuses me. They are both potasium so why do they sell them seperate?
I am not sure where you are getting PO3 and PO4 from. In addition, these are not potassium, but phosphorus (in the form of phosphates, namely PO4).

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I'm basically asking what dry frets do I need?
Potassium nitrate, potassium phosphate, a trace mix (such as CSM+B) and a GH booster (which is just a mix of calcium, magnesium and potassium sulfate) are generally recommended.

The GH booster can be omitted if you do not have a need to remineralize your water. If you buy the sulfates separately, you can mix your own. Of course, having the potassium sulfate separately also affords you the opportunity to dose potassium alone in case you notice a potassium deficiency in your plants.

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Also the reason you don't see macro/micro together is that phosphate will react with the Iron and precipitate out. This will leave you deficient in both of those.
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Honestly I can't say thank you enough. I know everyone says read read read and I have been but there's so much info and so many products all just saying they do this or better than them, that its a bit to much. I have no issues following dosing instructions, its buying the products the drives my anxiety through the roof. Limited funds for a new hobby doesn't leave a lot of room for mistakes.
I like the, buy this this this, follow this set of dosing instructions. Now go learn why.
Thanks again ill go buy the stuff now and start my ei dosing when it comes in. Great forum I'm glad I found it.
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Yeah, at least dry ferts are pretty cheap in the entire scope of things.
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Talk to Orlando at Greenleaf Aquariums, you'll find out everything you want to know and you can't go wrong. He sells whatever you need and will guide you thru every step of the way.
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I sent them an email. They have me some suggestions with the open invite to just email any time I feel like I nee help
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