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Old 05-08-2012, 05:21 AM   #31
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Is this the same stuff they keep the bettas in?
No. Its most likely rid ich which is formalin and meth blue combo to help kill any diseases on the nets as they sit in the net bucket

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Old 05-08-2012, 06:13 AM   #32
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Derek yup close red sea is 1.028 anyways it only takes like a 1/4 cup of salt to push it that high in a 5 gallon, tank safe and I doubt anything freshwater would survive long.
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Old 05-08-2012, 11:59 AM   #33
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What are nets typically made of? Some of the ones that I have seem like they are like nylon or something. Would they melt in these temperatures?
NYLON is the preffered choice

there used to be silk nets. not very popular because they fell apart but super soft
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Old 05-08-2012, 04:08 PM   #34
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Net soak or methylene blue are the two soaks.
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Old 03-28-2013, 07:28 PM   #35
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"ADBAC (benzalkonium chloride) is highly toxic to fish (LC50 = 280 μg ai/L), very highly toxic to aquatic invertebrates (LC50 = 5.9 μg ai/L), moderately toxic to birds (LD50 = 136 mg/kg-bw), and slightly toxic to mammals (LD50 = 430 mg/kg-bw).[5] Benzalkonium chloride solutions of 10% or more are toxic to humans, causing irritation to the skin and mucosa, and death if taken internally.[6]"

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It's also the stuff we spray on our kids' scraped knees (i.e., Bactine). You have to take some of the MSDS warnings with a 'grain of salt'. Speaking of, look up the MSDS for good ole NaCl if you want a laugh. "mutagenic, do not ingest, wash off skin with soap and water" etc., . Sorry to resurrect this old thread, but I am actually using some benz alk right now on some persistent cory funk. I got a couple metae from the LFS a few months back and after a couple days I noticed one of them had what appeared to be excessive slime. It got worse over time (spread on that cat, plus a little fin edge erosion), and although it eventually spread to the other metae in the tank, it did not spread to other fish in that tank (some otos) or fish (including cory aeneus) in another tank that shares the same sump. This is a new setup, and everyone is in quarantine together. They got Maracyn I&II, salt/heat/Ich Attack, and fenbendazole (for hydra on plants, but thought I'd mention it). The metae funk has gotten progressively worse, and as I said, spread from 1 metae to the other but not to other fish in the tanks. After some research online, I learned that aquaculturists use benz alk to cut through infections with tenacious slime coat, specifically because it has that surfactant effect. "Benzalkonium chloride is used as a general antibacterial. It acts as a surfactant, removing excess mucus and slime containing parasites and bacteria from the fish." I've done 2 baths so far (60 min at 2ppm = 1.5ml Bactine in 9.5 cups water). The cats seemed to tolerate it well. I was worried because the bactine also has a topical analgesic (lidocaine), but I monitored the cories' gill vent rate and activity throughout the hour and they did not get sedated. And best of all, the slime coat was quickly and noticeably diminished. I'll post updates as I make progress. Sorry to hijack the net dip thread, but it was the only discussion about benz alk in the forum, and I thought people might like to know that it can be useful for fish.
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Old 04-03-2013, 04:50 PM   #36
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where can one buy Benzalkonium chloride?
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The only place I found it was here:

http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/...g=en&region=US

Needless to say, I didn't follow through on it.
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where can one buy Benzalkonium chloride?
Cheap? As Bactine at any store with a half-way decent pharmacy. Pure? No idea. Maybe ask your vet.
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Thanks again folks. its been ordered
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Which?
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:25 PM   #41
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Why not old fashion bleach? Will it hurt the net? Dip the net and let it dry or dip and rinse with water and Prime. Or there's some stuff used by home brewers call Star San. It's super concentrated so an 8oz bottle makes like 50 gallon or more and it's food safe and costs about $8. Not sure if that would work for this application but might be worth a look.
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