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Old 02-06-2004, 07:29 PM   #16
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My Rena Filstar XP3 is my first canister filter. I believe that it is worth the money. As far as noise, it certainly isn't silent, but makes no more noise than a computer or a small fan running.

The setup was really easy. I really like the quick disconnect for the hoses, which makes cleaning a breeze!

As far as priming the filter: You keep the quick disconnect valve closed. Fill the intake tube using the supplied funnel (Doesn't take much water, a few ounces maybe). Put the cap on the intake, and open the valve. The water in the intake hose creates a siphon which fills the canister. They say to leave it sit for 2 minutes so the air can rise out. I have never had any noise problems with mine.
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Old 03-07-2004, 05:40 PM   #17
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Their literature says "self priming." I thougt it would be like an Eheim, where you just pushed down the big "button" to prime it. Guess not.

So is the XP3 filter easy to prime or not. Also the noise....better or worse than a fluval?

Priming with the funnel. Can you do this before you put the filter into the cabinet? It would be hard for me to prime it once it's down in the cabinet, set in back where it has to be.

I need to make a decision today.

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Old 03-08-2004, 03:46 AM   #18
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The funnel is just for the initial prime...
once you get water in the input tube, you'll never need the funnel again.

Self-priming is done when you close the latch....
gravity from the intake tub fills the canister and forces the air out of the output side....

On a normal setup, closing the latch is all you need to prime it.
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Old 03-12-2004, 12:09 AM   #19
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I don't care much for my xp3 (i won't buy another), several reasons: non clasping baskets (media floats everywhere when you take lid on/off), fairly noisy overall (much louder than my eheims), whistling spraybar until i drilled more holes (crazy !!). Decent for the money if these hassles are worth the bucks saved - for me, give me a big eheim !!
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Old 03-12-2004, 12:22 AM   #20
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non clasping baskets (media floats everywhere when you take lid on/off)
Me curious... What kind of media are you using?
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Old 03-12-2004, 03:28 AM   #21
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This tank is currently for a couple large aquatic painted turtles, but will be my next planted community tank.

bottom basket:
coarse and medium pads, which obviously dont float.

center:
ceramic rings (few eheim rings used as seed from established filter) and boichem stars and a little EHFISUBSTRAT. these float everywhere.

top:
fine polishing pads and carbon pad.

When i take the main lid off and start pulling out baskets, the baskets and their lids float apart, the media in the center basket floats everywhere, etc. Same thing with putting it back together with some water in it. Your never know if the baskets and their lids are lined up creating a seal. With my eccos, the baskets not only have screw on lids, but each basket screws to the next basket, creating one solid column of baskets that can be handled. Maybe I'm doing something wrong (always possible)...
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The XPs come with 2 or 3 filter basket separators....

You can put one on the center basket -- thus the rings will never float out.

Or buy a floss bag for the STRAT stuff you mentioned...
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Old 03-12-2004, 04:17 AM   #23
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my basket separators float, which means if there is nothing sitting on top of it (like the top basket) ... it floats. and when the media below it floats, everything floats. I'm kinda new to aquariums and it's frustrating. If I didn't own an eheim, i wouldn't know the diff.

Great idea about the bag. THANKS.

you should check out that EHFISUBSTRAT made by eheim, the ultimate bio media.
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None of the substrates I have used float around, that's why the question.

Here is another idea... use sponges in the upper halfs of the baskets. That way nothing can float around. I use two coarse sponges in the lower basket, medium in the middle, and fine on top. Not because anything floats, but because if you put sponges in the lower half, the will rip a little where the plastic things are that hold the separators up. So basically bio media in the lower half, separator, sponges in the upper half, in each basket.
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Old 03-13-2004, 10:19 AM   #25
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Hi

Some questions.....

Where does one get the EHFISUBSTRAT...I didnt find many sites selling this on the web that were in english

Also, I'm sold on getting an XP filter for my 75 gallon plant tank.... Should I go ahead and get the xp3 and make use of the extra filtratoin rate?

thatfishplace is the cheapest I've seen so far.... any thoughts for the more experienced buyers out there? Once my wife sees this months credit card statement, I'll have a lot of 'essplanin to do (as Ricky says to Lucy)

thanks in advance
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Old 03-13-2004, 01:47 PM   #26
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Defeinietly get the xp3, i have one on my 75 gal and enjoy the extra media space. It is a fine filter for the money, you will enjoy.

I have seen eheim substrat at several english onlines. including http://www.drsfostersmith.com

A yahoo search for "Ehfisubstrat PRO" will yield many.

Not to confuse things more, look for the Ehfisubstrat Pro (it is improved).
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/produc...066+2147013836

Here is a store with the xp3 cheap, but they want too much for the Ehfisubstrat PRO.http://superfishstore.com/waterworld...products_id=31

There is an ebay guy that i have bought several things from with great success. he has the xp3 for 99 and the substrat for 19. but it is not substrat pro. write him and ask him for pro maybe.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...;category=3212

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I am going to drill some extra holes in my sprary bar tomorrow after reading this.

ONE TIP: after filling the canister filter all the way, I unclasp one of the clasps and let some water spill out. Then I tilt the canister and repeat until you can no longer see any air in the canister at all. Get a beach towel before you try this!

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Old 04-01-2013, 05:17 PM   #28
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When you are attaching the tubing to the fittings use a little vegetable oil.
That way, if you ever need to take things apart they will be much easier to remove.

I like the Filstars a lot better than Fluvals or Eheims.
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BTW, these are now produced by API, and from what I've heard, they no longer come with a spraybar.

Shame if true, 'cause I've got two (XP-1 and XP-3) older ones, and love mounting the spraybar at the end of the tank for lengthwise current.

Anyone with any experience of the newer versions?

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BTW, these are now produced by API, and from what I've heard, they no longer come with a spraybar.

Shame if true, 'cause I've got two (XP-1 and XP-3) older ones, and love mounting the spraybar at the end of the tank for lengthwise current.

Anyone with any experience of the newer versions?

~Bruce
I have to the old and new version of the XP3 and my new version came with just the jet instead of the spray bar.
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