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Old 03-19-2013, 04:10 AM   #1
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Do all fish species have albino genes ?


I have seen plenty of albino fish but it seems many are common like Cories, Plecos & Oscars to name a few. Can all fish have a loss of color pigment which makes them albino ?
If so, where are the Rummynose, Boesemani & CPD albinos + many others ?

I was thinking about this the other day due to an article about "Iceberg" , the albino killer whale...
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I'm not sure, sorry but I would freakin LOVE to see a full shot of an albino killer whale. Awesome photo.
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Wellllll....Orca is not fish, it's a mammal. Very Cool. We have Pink Atlantic Bottlenose Dolphins down here in Louisiana
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Wellllll....Orca is not fish, it's a mammal. Very Cool. We have Pink Atlantic Bottlenose Dolphins down here in Louisiana
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I have seen plenty of albino fish but it seems many are common like Cories, Plecos & Oscars to name a few. Can all fish have a loss of color pigment which makes them albino ?
If so, where are the Rummynose, Boesemani & CPD albinos + many others ?

I was thinking about this the other day due to an article about "Iceberg" , the albino killer whale...
I would say just about any species could throw a mutation for albinism.
In farmed animals they get preserved as sports. In the wild they probably don't do so well.

Personally I don't encourage it.

Caves are a good indicator of this sort of thing happening with out the nasty consequences.
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I think yes. Every animal can be an albino. Every animal doesn't carry the genes though. In order to produce an albino you have to cross an albino with a non albino then back to its babies. Done often with guppies. Then you will see albinos in the 2nd generation but never the first.
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Hmmm...I wonder...if a beluga whale was melanistic (opposite of albino) like a black leopard,
if it would still have the appeal because it's different? Hmmmm....
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...or would it just look like a pilot whale?
I'd like to see a reverse patterned killer whale-white where the black is, and vice-versa...
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I have an albino squirrel in my area. I love that thing. We had a winter climate here so he is invisible during snowy months. I think I mis spoke in my other post. The children of albino non albino would still carry the albino gene it just wouldn't be expressed until the back cross to an albino or to the parent.
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I've heard that you don't get living albino horses, something about one of the genes being lethal...as for fish though? No clue, but it's an interesting thought
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I don't know about the horse thing never seen one. I know there are albino orchids too. That's not what they are called but the same principle except with plants.
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I have seen plenty of albino fish but it seems many are common like Cories, Plecos & Oscars to name a few. Can all fish have a loss of color pigment which makes them albino ?
If so, where are the Rummynose, Boesemani & CPD albinos + many others ?

I was thinking about this the other day due to an article about "Iceberg" , the albino killer whale...
Albinism is a mutation. The reason we see albinism more commonly in the pet trade is because it is a selectively chosen strain. Albinism is not a preferred trait in wild populations as it is easy for predators to pick off bright prey vs. normal coloration. I would think that there is a albino mutation in most species, yes.
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