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Old 03-14-2013, 07:32 PM   #31
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What is the pinnacle of freshwater fishkeeping?


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A week ago i would have said Discus, and then I saw one of these at my LFS. They are asking $1200.00
Exactly. Plus they're much more sensitive and finicky than discus. Also they're not awfully slow.
Best of all, stingrays pounce their food! Friggin awesome!




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IF you are talking about difficult in keeping alive, then Altum Angels, Tropheus moorii- Bemba orange is one of my favorite color forms- (Tanganyikan Cichlids that are vegetarians who are notorious for a large part of your group just up and dieing for no reason!!!)
I would have to strongly disagree with tropheus being hard to keep alive. They're fairly simple to keep. Overstock, lots of rocks, overfiltration, meds on hand, watch what you feed them, and high flow you're good to go. I was able to care for huge colonies with almost no experience. It was easier than trying to keep a rosy red feeder alive as they're full of diseases and parasites. Troph Ilangi are my favorite. T. Katoto is right behind them.

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Old 03-16-2013, 01:23 AM   #32
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Soooo many discus fans...
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Old 03-16-2013, 01:33 AM   #33
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Soooo many discus fans...
Indeed. They're overrated. I honestly have no clue why.

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That Black Diamond (Leopoldi) Stingray above is incredible!!! $1200 for one fish would land me in divorce court though.

I think the pinnacle of freshwater is a breeding colony of L46 Zebra Plecos. You only need 2-3 years of patience, waiting for them to mature to breeding age.
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Indeed. They're overrated. I honestly have no clue why.

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If you think they're overrated, and you've never seriously tried them - then do so, and you'll soon learn they're not overrated at all.
And if you have tried them, with so-so results, and didn't really care, and then gave up 'cause you didn't do it right, and now you're saying they're overrated, then shame on you ! LOL - no offense intended.
In fact, if you do it right, you'll be forever hooked !
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I have no idea why they are overrated either.
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If you think they're overrated, and you've never seriously tried them - then do so, and you'll soon learn they're not overrated at all.
And if you have tried them, with so-so results, and didn't really care, and then gave up 'cause you didn't do it right, and now you're saying they're overrated, then shame on you ! LOL - no offense intended.
In fact, if you do it right, you'll be forever hooked !
They're really overrated. Try keeping rays after keeping discus and you'll be asking yourself "why in the world did I keep these things?" They're much more challenging and so awesome!

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They're really overrated.
I just don't see so much thrill in them... Breeding calls for soft water, another massive turn off for me. That would require ro/di and remineralizing.

Then, finding a breeder/lfs near you and hope they keep a type you want. Hoping that fish doesn't kick the bucket on the 90 ride mile ride home(for me anyway.)

If I went with a soft water tank it'd be for tibees.

And if I really wanted a saucer shaped fish they'd be orange spotted sunnies... Just saying..
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned shrimp yet.
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Freshwater rays are cool, most can get massive though.
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I just don't see so much thrill in them... Breeding calls for soft water, another massive turn off for me. That would require ro/di and remineralizing.

Then, finding a breeder/lfs near you and hope they keep a type you want. Hoping that fish doesn't kick the bucket on the 90 ride mile ride home(for me anyway.)

If I went with a soft water tank it'd be for tibees.

And if I really wanted a saucer shaped fish they'd be orange spotted sunnies... Just saying..
I have a breeder/lfs who imports the nice and rare discus, but I still don't find it amusing at all. If I were to get a vertical pancake I'd get myself some black bar silver dollars. Much cooler and school/schoal much better.

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I'm surprised no one has mentioned shrimp yet.
Harlequin Shrimp hands down!

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Harlequin Shrimp hands down!

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The Sulawesi? I think they're beautiful also. A successful living/breeding tank of those might be the pinnacle IMO. At least when it comes to shrimp.
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Owning one of those is in a huge planted tank or indoor pond is my dream. If only they were legal to own in the U.S.
I concur. All the LFS in manhattan chinatown all sell them for sure. Are you sure they're illegal?
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I concur. All the LFS in manhattan chinatown all sell them for sure. Are you sure they're illegal?
I must say i agree with this, i do see them occasionally in a bunch of stores, i dont think they are illegal, in NY atleast, the stores i see them in wouldnt carry something illegal as well.
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