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Old 12-07-2003, 02:55 PM   #1
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I have been fighting horrendous algae in my 250 gal. tank for over a year now and loosing the battle entirely. I have tried everything I could think, everything others have suggested and a few unorthodox things like the current attack. A balance has eluded me entirely and it is time to take drastic measures.

I have shut down the co2, ceased all farts, shut down the lights, skipped this week's water change and may skip next weeks also.

I will probably have to tear down the tank and start from scratch anyway so at this point I have nothing to loose. I'm curious to see what happens to the algae when it is systematically denied that which has caused it to flourish. I don't know what that something is at this point but all that is going into the tank is food for the fish.
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Old 12-07-2003, 05:54 PM   #2
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ceased all farts
That could cause some definate medical problems. :hehe:

Sorry, I just COULDN'T leave it alone!
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Old 12-07-2003, 06:07 PM   #3
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Wouldnt it be cool if there were underwater mushrooms.
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Old 12-07-2003, 08:15 PM   #4
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OMG, my spell checker did that, I swear. It was supposed to be ferts. Guess I hit change instead of ignore. :O
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Old 12-08-2003, 12:21 AM   #5
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I remember you had from the beginning an exorbitant amount of light over your tank (I hope I am not mixing you up with somebody else... wasn't there like 1000W very efficient MH light there?)
Have you ever tried to get that down to a manageable amount, like 300W, and start everything slow until the tank is balanced enough to handle additional watts?
With slow I mean all farts :mrgreen: on the low side of the range, you know, 5ppm NO3 max, low CO2, etc, all with the goal of keeping the algae at hand?
If you have done that, for how long?
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Old 12-08-2003, 12:37 AM   #6
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I cut down on the lighting the only way I could, by running 2 units at a time and alternating every other day. I also let lime, dust etc. accumulate on the glass tops as a way of further cutting down on the light. Even with all 1000 watts running, the tank doesn't look over lit at all. My 29 gal. with 2 x 55watt PC's looks more brightly lit.

My plan now is to kill this stuff and if the plants die along with it, so be it, I'll replace them but this algae has got to go. I had another BGA bloom, this is the straw that broke the camel's back.
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Old 12-08-2003, 12:49 AM   #7
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1000 watts gezzz how much does that do on your electric bill
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Old 12-08-2003, 01:00 AM   #8
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I guess this was along time in coming. You have been beyond frustrated for quite a long time. I hope this works out for you.

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Old 12-08-2003, 02:53 AM   #9
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Thanks Mike. I'm to the point where I'm more concerned about the fish than I am the plants. The whole thing is still a mystery to me and I'd like to come to some sort of understanding before I start over. Don't want to make the same mistakes again.

Both my 75 gal. and my 29 gal. are doing great. No problems with algae at all and I couldn't ask for better plant growth. The most obvious difference is they have PC lighting and the big tank has MH. Maybe I should have gone with PC's. MH's seemed to make more sense at the time.
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Is there any affordable way to switch lighting?

It might be possible to trade in the lighting with a LFS, sell it at a local aquarium club, or possibly eBay it? You might be able to recoup some of your losses, then get a more manageable lighting system for your aquarium re-do.

Just a suggestion. Hope it helps.

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Old 12-08-2003, 03:33 AM   #11
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that's a thought. ebay would probably be my only option. LFS's around here don't have a clue about MH lights. I doubt very seriously that any have even heard of it. In fact, PC's are totally unheard of. I've never seen a PC bulb or fixture at any lfs.
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Old 12-08-2003, 05:02 AM   #12
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I'd agree the lighting is way too intense.

I was also wondering what ferts did you use? The PMDD system was initialy setup to provide the proper amounts of ferts for a tank to keep the plants in optimal condition, thereby starving out any algae.

I'd bet it's a nutrient imbalance as a secondary factor for the algae problem.
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Old 12-08-2003, 08:54 AM   #13
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ceased all farts
That could cause some definate medical problems. :hehe:

Sorry, I just COULDN'T leave it alone!
I'm sorry I don't have anything of value to add, but I had to say that's one of the funniest things I've ever read. Inadvertent or not, thanks for the laugh. :lol:
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Old 12-08-2003, 12:50 PM   #14
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I was dosing :

Potassium Sulfate
Potassium Nitrate
Plantex CSM
Epsom Salt
Fleet Enema
Sometimes I sub Seachem Flourish for the Plantex.

2la, Glad you got a laugh out of it. It helps to find some humor in a sad situation. I use iespell and it suggests "farts" for ferts every time. Maybe I should play around with it and see what other funnies I can come up with.
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