Confused journey of another nano

[MABJ]

Originally Posted by AutumnSky

Hi, sorry to read about the fish problems. I have the tiny Brigittae Clilis, and so far the problem I had with them are they are so tiny they have a hard time even eating Micro Bites, so I crunched them and started feeding periodically the First Bites, and they seem like they aren't starving now.

My other tank has WCMM with the regular cherries, do not appear to have any problems with them.

I won a bid for a dozen OEBT, so I was glad to take your situation to heart, and will not take any undue chances. The oebt are coming this week.

The sand stones in there and the mosses are just beyond awesome, btw!!!

Yay glad to hear from you.

I want pics of your Boraras

And pics of your obeys! Start a tank thread!!!

[AutumnSky]

In the middle of moving and my phone camera is a dud.

But I will post a pic or two and also start a thread as soon as I get them set up and calm.

I have had the little Chilis for maybe about 8 months and have lost a couple from getting dumped onto the carpet and a chair when under estimating how much lfs water was in the bag. And maybe from starving. Just realized the food thing maybe 6 weeks ago, and even since then they look sooooo much better! Just got two more from a different lfs to see if theirs are any more hardy. They are delicate when being handled.

My little guys are not as dark as some of the pics of them. Lfs also had a darker type which looked almost the same but super dark red, can't think of the name atm. Which is the color I would have thought mine would be. Twice the price too!

The WCMM are common but quite striking. They aren't the feeder ones. Stay at the top of the tank most of the time.

[MABJ]

Perhaps you don't have true Chillis? There are many types of Boraras.

In any case, sounds like a learning experience. Glad you realized they weren't feeding properly. That's always an issue with small fish. I know it is why mine are attacking shrimp.

So when will you get your OBETs, what are your parameters and what will you house them in/with?

[AutumnSky]

Well got the same looking fish from two different lfs and they look the same, I understand there is usually a dominant male which would be the blood red looking one and the others are more orange/orange red.

Also the dark red ones are chosen first from the tanks according to the lfs guy, so they end up with lighter ones...??? That is the idea I guess.

I am glad to know about their teeny tiny food needs too. One day after watching them feed it seemed like they hadn't actually eaten the few number of little micro bites I put in there. They mouthed them and bit at them but didn't actually seem to EAT them. I think I was on a make sure I am not over feeding period.

Then I ground them together with my fingers and sprinkled it in and they gobbled like they were starving and then it started to click. My poor little guys were super hungry. And they didn't eat off of the substrate. I feed my shrimp on a regular basis but I never saw the "Chilis" eat on the ground. Those poor little guys, I felt awful. So yeah learning curve.

It is always possible they aren't what they are supposed to be, in regard to the Chilis. They are SUPER tiny.

The oebt are being sent the beginning of the week, they ship Monday or Tuesday. I will need to check for the email, if they sent the info. We were waiting for the package confirmation.

7.2 pH
75/76F
0 I have ammonia out of the tap sometimes.
0
>10


I am moving the Bronze and Blue cherries from the Edge, and clean the tank pretty thoroughly and leave the little Chilis in there. There will probably be a few cherries left in there since they are hard to get out of the tank due to the weird shape unless I dump out everything in the new tank and rescape the Edge!

Will have some high quality, not quite Fire Trucks, but Ruby red and they will be coming in about three weeks! I have seen the parents, and have a couple of them, but the guys stock was low so I got some more bronze and blues from him and just about 5 Ruby reds, only a couple were females.

[MABJ]

No real updates on the tank. I'm favoring by far my CRS tank, but I do love this tank. I'm working on finding how I'll get rid of my Least Killifish.

[AutumnSky]

What did you do with your Least Killi?

I shared a snipet of your situation with someone who was going to get the same fish since they were "nano" fish and good to keep with shrimp...

[MABJ]

Originally Posted by AutumnSky

What did you do with your Least Killi?

I shared a snipet of your situation with someone who was going to get the same fish since they were "nano" fish and good to keep with shrimp...

They would be much better in a bigger nano setup. Like 5-10 gallons. But things are working OK for me.

I intend on getting rid of them. They're too big for 2 gallons lol.


I do have good news and an update though. I see microscopic shrimp. They're super pretty.

Something HAS to be going right if there are babies.

[MABJ]

UPDATES:

Hey guys, Like you all knew, I've been focused on other tanks recently.

1. Thank you again Speedy! I'll be getting some great PFR's for this tank. I'm also going to try to put a single CRS in here. See how it fares.

2. I'm going to treat the tank with Para Guard to kill a *Possible* bacterial infection. I don't think there's any chance of one, but I do know I didn't use a feeding dish, and it is possible with how much I move. So I'm going to treat just in case. Then when it is time for the new shrimpies to get here, I'm SURE everything will be good.

3. I've got about 10-12 babies running around. Some are actually getting pretty big and swimming around one is doing tricks in front of me right now lol. They're cute.

4. I'm getting rid of all least killifish. I already noted that, but I'll note it again. I do not want them anymore. I'm RAOKing them to a friend who will stick them in a bigger tank.

5. I'm moving all the current shrimp to other tanks. I know it is kind of awful, but I am not one to mix blood lines too much. The PFRs will remain PFRs as long as I can help it.

6. I'm going to work on figuring out when my mosses will get rid of these spores. They have to be happy.. Does anybody have any idea when they'll go away or if anything will become of them??? Lol

[A.D.D.i.c.t.]

I'm going to be ordering one of these soon based largely on Jake's thread and yours. Thanks for all the detailed info you've provided. Mine will be shrimp only. It was amazing the increase I saw in my cherry tank after removing all fish. Tiny babies swimming in the open water, with nothing to fear. Very cool. Wish you the best with your PFR's!

[MABJ]

Thanks ADDict!

Glad you've been influenced by the thread, and I'm happy that my details have helped.

I am SUPER happy you've decided to go fishless. That's something I'll stress to everybody with smaller tanks. It isn't a mistake to take in fish, but if you're an invert lover, you'll regret it.

[MABJ]

Update as of this weekend:

All shrimp minus one illusive baby have been removed. There were actually a bunch of babies that survived Killi-hell.

Killifish = gone.

Paraguard treatments are in the process. I cleaned the tank a little.

When cleaning I noticed my [I do not know the grassy plant species, maybe Erios?] shot off a daughter plant and it was hiding behind my IAL. Very neat to find.

I caught all the Killies and their babies, too.

Very happy to have a clean slate for my new shrimp species.

[MABJ]

WOW I've been spending LOTS of time on this tank. I re-bound some of the moss to the driftwood. It got dense after only being a few strings. I'm hoping to grow it out and even denser.

I officially removed all the DWL. I couldn't stand the needles. Maybe someday in a larger tank.

You may actually notice I also increased the substrate line by at least a half inch.

I'll be changing how the ugly leaf is arranged to look nicer.











Thanks for looking! Any comments/suggestions? Any good places to place some cholla wood?

[MABJ]

I LOVE tannins in the water. Just love them.

Thankfully they're everywhere since I added two leaves and several cholla logs.

I'm not really concerned at how 'amazing' it looks anymore. I think it looks great for my purposes at least, but I'd love comments on what people would change or if people like it.

Especially a comment on with or without the water lettuce would be really nice!

[MABJ]

New inhabitants are here. They seem to be happy, too. I did a 45 minute acclimation.

They're 'flying' around now. But I'll say, there's 15 shrimp and a baby in here.

They are darned hard to find. I had to sit for a few minutes to see any life.

The tannins are pretty dark, plus they are dark as well. I'm officially in love with not having dwarf water lettuce around.

[MABJ]

Here are some shots.. I was watching a shrimp for some time, sure it would molt. Not sure if it did .

As always, here's a FTS:
I literally just let the last cholla float and it sank there. I don't mind it, but I'm ALWAYS seeking advice on my scape.


He's got his swimmerets down, and he kept them down for a long time. Definitely stretching, he was.


Never crap where you eat.. Oh wait. This mama doesn't care. Lol.


This older mama looks almost black in spots.. Help on this one? Lol.


My horned nerite+a Juvie

--could someone tell me if these younger ones will shore up the 'cracks' in their red?

What's everybody think? I've got some solid red males. I'm waiting until I have a solid 30+ then I'll start culling to make a pure red male line.