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Old 03-05-2013, 02:25 AM   #1
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Interesting possible new cross


So I have two "rainbow shrimp" in my oebt tank. I use the quotes because I am not one hundred percent positive they are but I am pretty sure. I have seen them both saddled for a couple months now so I am certain both are females. So while I was away the past week for the birth of my son, I came home to find one prego. Now I also have supreme red neos in the tank but only one male. I am kinda leaning towards a tiger being the father as the eggs are brown like the 5 other berried oebt's in my tank at the moment. Does this sound possible????

On another cool note I watched a oebt transfer fertilized eggs from saddled to berried this morning. She was really bent in half and twitching. I almost thought she was dying but then I saw the little brown spots falling into their place. She really looked in pain, but after watching my wife last week I can't blame her lol.

Here's some pics of the shrimp in question Old pic first

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Thanks in advance. Hope some of the shrimp experts out there can give me an answer.

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Old 03-05-2013, 01:35 PM   #2
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Any ideas???
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:55 PM   #3
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Are you wondering if that's still a cherry, or a cherry-tiger cross? Looks like one of the mutations that cherries sometimes throw which is how we got chocolate shrimp.
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No I believe it to be a rainbow shrimp, caridina sp rainbow. There are absolutely no way there are any male rainbow shrimp in the tank. But there are oebt which are also a member of the caridina family. Just didn't know if it was possible for a oebt to be the father.
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well if its a caridina shrimp then yes a tiger can bet it bettried cause tiger are caridina as well
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Sorta answered my own question sorry about that. Guess what I'm really wondering is if anyone has done this cross before. The rainbows change color quite frequently, will I have a color changing tiger haha jk. Would be pretty cool though. Will just have to wait and see what comes out.

I was also wondering if anyone has crossed oebt's with Taiwan bees? I got the 5 prego tigers so it is kind of giving me hope I will get some babies to survive. I really want to set up a tb tank this summer or fall. I would be willing to sacrifice some babies to see if I can get them adjusted to the lower ph. Just throwing it out there, way to far in the future to be making any real plans.
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I wonder if the cross will be similar to the green tigers?
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ha prob not lol
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Old 03-05-2013, 09:43 PM   #9
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I don't believe they will cross. (the same sort of definity as neoxcardina cross)
Meaning I don't believe they will do it, but if you force them to under certain luck you may get them to.

The reason I say this is because "rainbow shrimp" is a broad name for shrimps but most likely they are caridina cf. babaulti. With that said caridinas don't necessarily mate with other caridinas like Amano shrimp and CRS because of natural morphological differences. However, I haven't really heard of any babaulti x tiger mixes so this is why I'm skeptical of it working.
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Trust I am very skeptical myself! But I have seen definite saddles on the rainbows. They are in a 12 long with 5 male oebt, 5 berried female oebt, 1 male supreme red neo, 1 berried female supreme, 4 saddled supremes. The male oebt seem to be fairly aggressive breeding wise as I got all the tigers and as each female came of age she got knocked up, plus any female molt including the neos sends the male tigers into a absolute frenzy. The final reason I think the father may be a tiger is because the eggs are a dark brown just like the berried oebt's. I noticed it last Thursday I believe but I was not home as I was at the hospital for the birth of my son. So I would imagine I have at least another 26 days at the least till the babies are born. That is even if she carries full term and any babies make it as it is her first batch. Time will tell, was just asking to see if it had happened to anyone else.

Also I have had these rainbows since the fall so I do not think it was any stored sperm or anything of that matter. Thanks for all your thoughts.
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I don't believe they will cross. (the same sort of definity as neoxcardina cross)
Meaning I don't believe they will do it, but if you force them to under certain luck you may get them to.

The reason I say this is because "rainbow shrimp" is a broad name for shrimps but most likely they are caridina cf. babaulti. With that said caridinas don't necessarily mate with other caridinas like Amano shrimp and CRS because of natural morphological differences. However, I haven't really heard of any babaulti x tiger mixes so this is why I'm skeptical of it working.
People have crossed NEO x Caridinia one of my club members just recently crossed blue rili with btoe. Also paracaridinia x caridinia have happened as well so now I believe under the right circumstances anything can happen.

Also I have Super Tiger x Blue Bolt Tibees. They are like this blue/green/yellow with speckled striping.

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People have crossed NEO x Caridinia one of my club members just recently crossed blue rili with btoe. Also paracaridinia x caridinia have happened as well so now I believe under the right circumstances anything can happen.

Also I have Super Tiger x Blue Bolt Tibees. They are like this blue/green/yellow with speckled striping.

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Thanks dude letting stuff get mixed in this tank. One of the Blue Bolt x Tiger tibees dropped a clutch about 3-4 days ago yet to see babies unless they are just blending in with my oebt babies.
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Too cool, you beat me to it lol. Congrats man! I really want to have a mixed tank like that and just see what pops out. Some of the tibees out there I think are absolutely beautiful. Good luck with the babies. Maybe we can share some stock down the road and really mix things up lol. You're lucky to love in Cali does not seem like anyone is doing stuff like that near me.
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my mystery shrimp will cross with both neo's and caridina shrimp but i dont know if any of the off spring are fertile. i think my mysteries are how i ended up with the green tiger they possible crossed with a blue rili. all i know is after 2 times being berried she has dropped all but one egg from this batch so im not hopeful. so there are shrimp that will cross with both neo's and cardinia. wish i knew what my mystery shrimp were mighty have to send those in for testing lol
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