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Old 03-04-2013, 01:07 AM   #31
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Native Planted biotope thread (Houston, Texas)


Link doesn't work for me and you guys sure have some nice stuff up north. Where I live has nothing of the like. Just ghetto little hoodrats.

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Old 03-04-2013, 02:14 AM   #32
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here is the website, not sure what is up with the link...
www.springcreekgreenway.org
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Old 03-04-2013, 03:50 AM   #33
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I don't know of the Walstad method, but I've heard of it quite a number of times recently. I've only tried the "nooby" method (lmao) and DSM right now.
Not to derail the thread, Diana Walstad is a microbiologist who wrote a book called Ecology of the Planted Aquarium, that looked at the science behind using soil with a sand cap, low lighted, planted aquarium. She began testing using soil in aquariums because she noted most lake and streams have soil substrates.

This was before ADA aquasoil, or any of the new aquarium soil substrates that are intended to hold ferts. According to Walstad, the soil is the catalyst for breaking down excess food and fish waste into nutrients for the plants.

It's not a perfect system, but it did work really for me and if you're looking at very low maintenance (I did 20% water changes maybe once a month, and kept the tanks topped off... that's it) then I still recommend it.

But, the downside is that with any capped system, you wouldn't want to move plants around too often after it's planted.

Ok, sorry for the diversion... back on topic.

I'm looking forward to this tank too!
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Old 03-04-2013, 11:32 AM   #34
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Thanks for explaining Bluestems, Glad to have the explaination in this thread should anyone else be unaware of the Walstad method and its origins. I really enjoy this forum becuase of the knowledgeable members, the wealth of real life experiance is invaluable. Nearly everything has been attempted at one time or another, I find it utterly fascinating that even so every tank is different. Feel free to ask/answer/clarify questions anytime and I certainly appreciate it!
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Old 03-04-2013, 04:51 PM   #35
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Seems like this thread already has a large pool of information on Houston/Texas Natives. Thanks Bluestems for that explanation. Makes much more sense now. I'm sure the others who come to visit this thread and reading about it will also know. I, myself, am still in the learning game. I've only started planted tanks since September 2012 and fish back in April 2012.

If you want, I could meet up with you every now and then to go collecting for this tank? I'm sure with multiple trips and more than one person, we could easily set up this tank in no time.
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Old 03-04-2013, 05:11 PM   #36
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That sounds great Mistahoo! My general timeline is return from offshore on the 14th, ready for the GHAC meeting and collection trip on the 16th. I'll probably call and set up an appointment with the supervisor on Monday/Tuesday and we shall see what happens at that point onward. I'll bring up the tank at the GHAC meeting and see if anyone has anything to donate and once it gets firmed up, will order whatever is needed beyond what we currently have (which is a decent amount of hoarding, lol). The 2 largest issues are the light (the guy I order from is local and a dual T5 with 10,000K bulbs is only $50) and the filter (Have a few AC's sitting around we could use temporarily until I can get an Eheim 2211 or 2213) otherwise we could start it in no time. Even just doing a setup, filter, hardscape, and allowing it to begin cycling could be done during this 2 weeks in hopefully.
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Old 03-04-2013, 05:20 PM   #37
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I've got a 2213 I can donate. Full of media (plastic pot scrubbers) and already cycled. Just missing quick disconnects and lily pipes.

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Old 03-04-2013, 05:23 PM   #38
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I love LEDs and I'm sure the kids would love the shimmer lol. Might be farfetched but maybe we could get an LED fixture on it?

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LED fixtures are not that costly, just have never used them in a planted tank before. I think it would all be about preference at that point and I like the look better as well. Awesome on the 2213, I think we have some extra stuff from a broken Pro II we might be able to scavenge.
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Old 03-04-2013, 05:40 PM   #40
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I've been eyeing the finnex fixtures lately. They have a nice design. Super thin and sleek.

Maybe order some cheap lily pipes to give the tank a nice look? It just needs one set of quick disconnects.

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Indeed, I think lily pipes are more pimpin then even my tanks, lol. Would a Finnex be enough wattage/PAR for the sag? I think we could do low light otherwise, it is about the only snag in the lighting I can see. I'd ditch them out of the set up, but they are everywhere locally and would be a great addition...
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:52 PM   #42
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Indeed, I think lily pipes are more pimpin then even my tanks, lol. Would a Finnex be enough wattage/PAR for the sag? I think we could do low light otherwise, it is about the only snag in the lighting I can see. I'd ditch them out of the set up, but they are everywhere locally and would be a great addition...
I'm not quite sure if the par is enough. They sell a variety of fixtures. I haven't gotten a chance to look up which would best suit the tank. Sag is great and would look nice in the setup.

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Old 03-05-2013, 02:50 AM   #43
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So I took a quick look at the Finnex Ray 2. For a 24" it's about 50 mmol per square inch of PAR if you sit it on the tank. For a 36" it's about 90 mmol per square inch of PAR sitting on the tank. I've already factored in the depth of each tank (20H and 20L) into the PAR ratings. I have no clue what is considered low/med/high when it comes to PAR. I found this thread that's just as confusing. Along with this thread. The members in the first thread are saying 35-50 is medium, but the second thread says otherwise. If you end up with a 20L that would be awesome (I love those dimensions much better)!
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I don't have any natural Biotopes, but I collected over 5 species of native plants today alone! I have around 15 species so far I have collected from the creeks around Austin, and the list keeps growing.
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Awesome! What did you collect? I haven't really collected plants. Hornwort was the only thing and I was lucky to find it as it was wedged in a deep crack.

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