Flourite, all the nutrients land how much!

Raul-7 · 12-02-2003, 01:59 PM

I asked SeaChem about Flourite's nutrients and heres there reply-
Flourite --------

Ag 6.922 5.23
Al 15710 10210
As 12.7 4.6
B 0 0
Ba 104.3 123.9
Be 0.9305 0.6249
Ca 120.2 195.3
Cd 5.979 5.485
Co 7.757 5.748
Cr 21.95 13.03
Cu 19.45 17.36
Fe 16190 18500
K 2417 2195
Mg 2816 2281
Mn 46.84 64.79
Mo 12.37 9.372
Na 365 223.4
Ni 17.72 12.41
P 195.4 224.5
Pb 55.2 42.42
Sb 56.57 40.29
Se 79.42 64.66
Si 95.52 95.1
Sr 25.16 16.28
Ti 26.28 33.97
Tl 118.8 98.9
V 18.23 14.55
Zn 50.37 28.87

Raul-7 · 12-02-2003, 02:00 PM

Can someone explain why there are two numbers(I think they mean that each bag may contain between ## and ##?), I don't know all the abbreviations though, can someone tell me them?! I just want to compare these numbers to Eco-Complete, then we'll know which maybe better...

**GDominy** · 12-02-2003, 03:35 PM

Ag Silver
Al Aluminum
As Arsenic
B Boron
Ba Barium
Be Beryllium
Ca Calcium
Cd Cadmium
Co Cobalt
Cr Chromium
Cu Copper
Fe Iron
K Potassium
Mg Magnesium
Mn Manganese
Mo Molybdenum
Na Sodium
Ni Nickel
P Phosphorus
Pb Lead
Sb Antimony
Se Selenium
Si Silicon
Sr Strontium
Ti Titanium
Tl Thallium
V Vanadium
Zn Zinc

Raul-7 · 12-02-2003, 04:58 PM

Thanks for helping out..now we just need a CaribSea listing! I'll send them an email and see what they have to say...

Daemonfly · 12-04-2003, 04:50 AM

Eco Complete, from bag front:
(all ppm)

Iron - 41,625.02
Magnesium - 23,116.30
Calcium - 33,065.61
Potassium - 5,296.37
zinc - 77.78
sulfur - 360.81
manganese - 975.71
sodium - 12,910.97
aluminum - 43,152.08
silicon - 4,498.92
chromium - 49.76
cobalt - 33.41
barium - 336.91
strontium - 278.09
nickel - 32.80
titanium - 4,486.78
vanadium - 239.01
lithium - 8.37
boron - 2.26
cadmium - 1.61

Raul-7 · 12-04-2003, 08:10 AM

Whoa! Is it possible Eco-Complete outcompetes it by that much!? :?

George Willms · 12-05-2003, 04:03 PM

Gotta love new technological advances.

I've had the eco-complete for about a month in a tank, I love that no rinsing is needed! Plant growth so far has been very good, even without CO2.

mario · 12-05-2003, 04:23 PM

The larger amount of nutrients found in Eco Complete can by no means be taken as proof that it is better for plant growth than Seachem Fluorite.

What matters is how much of these nutrients are available to plants over which period of time. If these nutrients are all irreversibly bound to the substrate they do you no good. On the other hand, if they all wash out within the first week in the tank, they are just as useless.

What really matters for a good substrate is the ability to store nutrients in a form that makes them available to plants. I have no idea whether Fluorite or Eco Complete wins out in that category, I just know that the nutrient content can be very misleading or meaningless.

12-02-2003, 03:35 PM	#3
GDominy Planted Tank VIP (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Victoria,British Columbia, Canada Posts: 3,276	Ag Silver Al Aluminum As Arsenic B Boron Ba Barium Be Beryllium Ca Calcium Cd Cadmium Co Cobalt Cr Chromium Cu Copper Fe Iron K Potassium Mg Magnesium Mn Manganese Mo Molybdenum Na Sodium Ni Nickel P Phosphorus Pb Lead Sb Antimony Se Selenium Si Silicon Sr Strontium Ti Titanium Tl Thallium V Vanadium Zn Zinc __________________ Gareth

12-05-2003, 04:03 PM	#7
George Willms Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (10/100%) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Rutherford, NJ Posts: 1,433	Gotta love new technological advances. I've had the eco-complete for about a month in a tank, I love that no rinsing is needed! Plant growth so far has been very good, even without CO2. __________________ George #2 Ehfipimp extraordinaire! Eheim Pimp Club Recruiter, Saergant at Arms, and Enforcer. 29 and 45 gallon. 2026, 2028 My 29 gallon tank

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12-02-2003, 01:59 PM	#1
Raul-7 Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (4/100%) Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lomita, CA Posts: 1,650	I asked SeaChem about Flourite's nutrients and heres there reply- Flourite -------- Ag 6.922 5.23 Al 15710 10210 As 12.7 4.6 B 0 0 Ba 104.3 123.9 Be 0.9305 0.6249 Ca 120.2 195.3 Cd 5.979 5.485 Co 7.757 5.748 Cr 21.95 13.03 Cu 19.45 17.36 Fe 16190 18500 K 2417 2195 Mg 2816 2281 Mn 46.84 64.79 Mo 12.37 9.372 Na 365 223.4 Ni 17.72 12.41 P 195.4 224.5 Pb 55.2 42.42 Sb 56.57 40.29 Se 79.42 64.66 Si 95.52 95.1 Sr 25.16 16.28 Ti 26.28 33.97 Tl 118.8 98.9 V 18.23 14.55 Zn 50.37 28.87

12-02-2003, 02:00 PM	#2
Raul-7 Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (4/100%) Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lomita, CA Posts: 1,650	Can someone explain why there are two numbers(I think they mean that each bag may contain between ## and ##?), I don't know all the abbreviations though, can someone tell me them?! I just want to compare these numbers to Eco-Complete, then we'll know which maybe better...

12-02-2003, 04:58 PM	#4
Raul-7 Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (4/100%) Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lomita, CA Posts: 1,650	Thanks for helping out..now we just need a CaribSea listing! I'll send them an email and see what they have to say...

12-04-2003, 04:50 AM	#5
Daemonfly Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 355	Eco Complete, from bag front: (all ppm) Iron - 41,625.02 Magnesium - 23,116.30 Calcium - 33,065.61 Potassium - 5,296.37 zinc - 77.78 sulfur - 360.81 manganese - 975.71 sodium - 12,910.97 aluminum - 43,152.08 silicon - 4,498.92 chromium - 49.76 cobalt - 33.41 barium - 336.91 strontium - 278.09 nickel - 32.80 titanium - 4,486.78 vanadium - 239.01 lithium - 8.37 boron - 2.26 cadmium - 1.61

12-04-2003, 08:10 AM	#6
Raul-7 Wannabe Guru (View User Tanks) PTrader: (4/100%) Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lomita, CA Posts: 1,650	Whoa! Is it possible Eco-Complete outcompetes it by that much!? :?

12-05-2003, 04:23 PM	#8
mario Planted Member (View User Tanks) PTrader: (0/0%) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Boston, MA, USA Posts: 287	The larger amount of nutrients found in Eco Complete can by no means be taken as proof that it is better for plant growth than Seachem Fluorite. What matters is how much of these nutrients are available to plants over which period of time. If these nutrients are all irreversibly bound to the substrate they do you no good. On the other hand, if they all wash out within the first week in the tank, they are just as useless. What really matters for a good substrate is the ability to store nutrients in a form that makes them available to plants. I have no idea whether Fluorite or Eco Complete wins out in that category, I just know that the nutrient content can be very misleading or meaningless.