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Old 03-02-2013, 01:01 AM   #16
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Azoo leach very small amount of Ammonia and it is gone after 2-3 50-70% WC.3 weeks max.
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Azoo leach very small amount of Ammonia and it is gone after 2-3 50-70% WC.3 weeks max.
What does Azoo buffer to? Think I read 6.8 but not sure.
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Old 03-02-2013, 01:54 AM   #18
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What does Azoo buffer to? Think I read 6.8 but not sure.
6.5 pH for me
It also never leeched ammonia for me.
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Old 03-02-2013, 03:07 AM   #19
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Well OP doesn't mention price, then I would go for Fluval stratum. It really come down where you get your shrimp from. My CRS breeds in amtank with Eco-complete 7.0 ph with no problem. Babies are surviving as well. Remember animal has the ability to adapt to their environment, that's where people missed the most. Remember when Taiwan bees need low ph to breed? Now they do fine in 6.4ph.
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Well OP doesn't mention price, then I would go for Fluval stratum. It really come down where you get your shrimp from. My CRS breeds in amtank with Eco-complete 7.0 ph with no problem. Babies are surviving as well. Remember animal has the ability to adapt to their environment, that's where people missed the most. Remember when Taiwan bees need low ph to breed? Now they do fine in 6.4ph.
I'm doing SSS in fluorite, RO water, no buffering, 7.0pH too and the babies are rocking out. Is that way for everyone? No. Can it be done. Sure.
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People saying FSS is cheaper your argument is invalid...

FSS 8.8 LB bag = $26 x2 = $52 and you're only getting 17.6 LBS

ADA Aquasoil 9L(20LB bag) = $40

It's clear that the FSS is not more cost effective nor is it a better substrate for plants or shrimp... The choice is clear, don't try to skimp out go with the standard ADA AS has proven results.
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People continually compare fss and Amazonia on a pound to pound basis which doesn't make sense if you don't know the density of each. How many liters of material is each bag? Also fss is $20 per bag free shipping. I am using Amazonia but I am just curious about how fss would work out.
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People saying FSS is cheaper your argument is invalid...

FSS 8.8 LB bag = $26 x2 = $52 and you're only getting 17.6 LBS

ADA Aquasoil 9L(20LB bag) = $40

It's clear that the FSS is not more cost effective nor is it a better substrate for plants or shrimp... The choice is clear, don't try to skimp out go with the standard ADA AS has proven results.
oh yeah I completely forgot Aquasoil is actually cheaper than FSS lol. (in my area at least,)

people that are far away from an aquasoil source will have to pay around 50 bucks for a bag.
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People continually compare fss and Amazonia on a pound to pound basis which doesn't make sense if you don't know the density of each. How many liters of material is each bag? Also fss is $20 per bag free shipping. I am using Amazonia but I am just curious about how fss would work out.
If you look at bag size it's pretty clear calculating by LB is almost spot on. If anything I wanna say FSS is denser because it seems like it breaks down less.
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Thks for all the input everyone! Wish my crs shrimp came from a Eco-complete source.
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I got FSS for free from a user on this forum and it is great for me. THe only bad thing is that it's really light so planting is harder in it. But in SF water, it is able to buffer the water slightly so it works just great for me.
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SupaTank where are you located in cali? Join scape club, lots of members can help you and discount from local stores
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Old 03-08-2013, 06:00 AM   #28
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People saying FSS is cheaper your argument is invalid...

FSS 8.8 LB bag = $26 x2 = $52 and you're only getting 17.6 LBS

ADA Aquasoil 9L(20LB bag) = $40

It's clear that the FSS is not more cost effective nor is it a better substrate for plants or shrimp... The choice is clear, don't try to skimp out go with the standard ADA AS has proven results.
Agreed ADA AS has proven results compared to a more variable FSS. But a couple things to note:

1. Fer some odd reason amazon increased the prices and 2 bags of 4.4 is cheaper than 1 8.8.
2. Amazon for me is cheaper with free 2 day shipping with prime. Shipping (UPS ground is $26) for ADA.
3. Like others have said density for the 2 soils are different so to calculate it by pounds is inaccurate at times.
4. If I remember correctly.....for a 9L bag of Africana.....it equals about 1.5 bags of 8.8 lb FSS.

Ultimately I believe if you want to factor in cost, it would have to be which is one is ultimately more available.

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SupaTank where are you located in cali? Join scape club, lots of members can help you and discount from local stores
I don't know if there's any hobbyist near me since I'm in central CA...
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SupaTank you'd be surprised by how many people around you keep planted aquariums. We have quite a few central cali members on Scape.
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