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Old 02-09-2013, 06:59 AM   #16
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Good bacteria does not create any bad type of spike. It is a probiotic good bacteria for tanks. Won't spike anything it should actually keep the crazy ammonia spikes associated with disturbing the substrate. I have feed bio plus for a year now and have great luck with it. Got some after I found out nick used it, I do also fee ei and bebi too
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:32 AM   #17
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Good bacteria does not create any bad type of spike. It is a probiotic good bacteria for tanks. Won't spike anything it should actually keep the crazy ammonia spikes associated with disturbing the substrate. I have feed bio plus for a year now and have great luck with it. Got some after I found out nick used it, I do also fee ei and bebi too
I was actually wondering what the difference between Ei, Bebi & bio plus was. Or if there is one. But you feed all of them so there must be?
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Ei is a true food made up of all kinds of stuff where bebi is more of a pro bacteria enhancer to help create bacteria for babies to feed on. Bio plus is a little of both it seems helps break down waste with the bacteria it has in it but also has some yeast and othe nutrients in it. I dose bio plus after each water change the. I does ei once a week and bebi once a week
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Here is a pic of the tank so far. No moss yet because I have it heated to help grow the bacteria. It will have moss on several of the lava rocks once I take out the heater.
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And here are the future inhabitants... They will not be going in there for at least 6 weeks.
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They just arrived! Gorgeous. Thanks Speedie!
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Old 02-15-2013, 04:45 PM   #21
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Just tested some of the params and they are:
GH 5
Ammonia between 6 - 8
Nitrites/ates 0

Seems I have a long way to go. It has been running for a week today. Tonight really.
Any idea how long the new Amazonia has been taking to stop leaching? I thought I had read that it wasn't as bad...
I won't be putting the TBs in there for a good while but I've got some Otos and Nerites in a little holding tank and I'd love to get them in there.
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Old 02-15-2013, 04:57 PM   #22
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Have you seeded tank with mulm from another tank? It doesn't look like there are any denitrifying bacteria in your tank if you have ammonia and no nitrates.

I have found daily 100% water changes for 1 week are the best way to get Aquasoil ready for new inhabitants
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Have you seeded tank with mulm from another tank? It doesn't look like there are any denitrifying bacteria in your tank if you have ammonia and no nitrates.

I have found daily 100% water changes for 1 week are the best way to get Aquasoil ready for new inhabitants
I did use some of the filter media from my old tank. I'm thinking I should have found a way to use more.
I also had the entire surface covered with frogbit until yesterday, so maybe they had been sucking up all the nitrates.
I have read such conflicting things about water changes during cycling Amazonia. I have read do it daily, and then I've read that all you are doing is wasting the buffering capacity...
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Do water changes, otherwise there's way too much ammonia, it'll take forever to cycle.

Takes 4-6 weeks to stop leeching ammonia completely. Just do water changes. I do 100% wc on second day, and the. Every other day for a week, so 3 Total water changes, then just do regular weekly wc of 20% until cycled.
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Oh wow. 100%? I would not have done that. I've done a few smaller ones.
Ok. Well, I'll do it today, even though its day 7!
How would you proceed from here? Just the same as if this was day 2?
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I set up three tanks with new amazonia in mid December.

- 10G, 3" ADA, new filter media, it's still leaching ammonia today at around 3ppm (I finally added some matured media two days ago)

- 10G, 3" ADA but only 1/3 of the tank length, matured media, no more detectable ammonia in less than 3 weeks.

- 8G, 2" ADA, half mature/half new media, cycled in 6 weeks (or I should say no more ammonia after 6 weeks).


A lot of bubbles helps, higher temperature helps too, matured media helps the most. I only do one 100% WC when there's no more ammonia (my ADA never leached more than 5ppm anyway) to get rid of the nitrate (will be super high, over 40ppm in mine). Just my experience, and hope it helps a bit.
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Took my tank about 6 weeks, and that was with seeding it with mulm from a cycled tank and running a fully seeded filter.
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My ammonia is now down to 1 ppm. Getting there.
I have a question.
A couple of weeks ago I dropped a sponge from another tank in to this one. I think it has helped cycle it, but it looks awful. I am worried though that if I take it out now I will cause the ammonia to go up.
When could I be reasonably sure that the filter is holding its own? I have a canister, a sponge, and a UGF...
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They'll be fine. Once bacteria is growing in your substrate and filters, it will grow fast. Your tank is probably already cycled, the substrate is just still leeching. (those are two different things)

So id take it out now if you don't like it, you'll have to take it out sometime!
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They'll be fine. Once bacteria is growing in your substrate and filters, it will grow fast. Your tank is probably already cycled, the substrate is just still leeching. (those are two different things)

So id take it out now if you don't like it, you'll have to take it out sometime!
Good points! I will.
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