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Old 02-27-2013, 03:18 AM   #1
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Most Likely Ich, How to Treat & Avoid?


Hey folks, there's many topics on Ich, I know, but I'm unfortunately unable to set up a hospital any time soon and one of my Zebra Danios appears to have an Ich spot on one of It's fins. I just brough a few of these little guys home from Petco today (not surprised to see Ich but I did my best to pick out the healthiest looking ones).

What are some basic methods to treat this little guy without harming the other Danios or my plants?

Can I safely treat within my 10 gallon and rid it of Ich eventually so I ca have peace of mind adding new fish later?

Thanks for any info, I'm very new to the hobby and disease is somewhat daunting but I'd like to learn how to control it before it becomes an epidemic or a further problem in the future.
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Just a note for the future, but if some fish in a tank are showing signs of Ich, then they all have it, but you just can't see it in some fish right away.
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Old 02-27-2013, 03:27 AM   #3
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Just a note for the future, but if some fish in a tank are showing signs of Ich, then they all have it, but you just can't see it in some fish right away.
Ah ok, any suggested treatments? I've turned the heat up a bit around 82F to speed up the life cycle, any medications I should pick up?
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Also, to avoid using chemicals, can I safely run my water at 83F without adding stress to the fish? I'm running a Tetra EX30 and a Rio 200 pump in a 10 gallon, I hope thats enough flow to keep the oxygen levels optimum for the fish.
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I'm currently treating one of my tanks for this (I actually got lazy and didn't quarantine one of my newly bought fish ). Anyway, I've pulled out all the fish into separate containers and cranked up their water temp to 85F and then added aquarium salt to each of them. Along with 100% water changes daily.

I'm trying to rid it without using chemicals as well. So far one of the fish appears to be ick free for 2-days now....so it definitely looks like this conservative method works.
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I'm currently treating one of my tanks for this (I actually got lazy and didn't quarantine one of my newly bought fish ). Anyway, I've pulled out all the fish into separate containers and cranked up their water temp to 85F and then added aquarium salt to each of them. Along with 100% water changes daily.

I'm trying to rid it without using chemicals as well. So far one of the fish appears to be ick free for 2-days now....so it definitely looks like this conservative method works.
Great news! I have 5 danios so no where to keep them seperated At this point I've cranked the heat up to 84F, I'll pick up aquarium salt tomorrow and do 50% WC daily so I don't stress them out too bad.

Thanks for the first hand advice!
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I'm four days into ich treatment in my 20 gallon community tank. I raised the temperature to 84 F, added one tablespoon of aquarium salt per five gallons of water, began dosing Melafix (to prevent secondary infections), and I am changing about 30% of the water daily.

I have noticed no adverse effects on the health of any fish or snails as a result of the treatment. To my surprise, even the newly hatched kribensis fry seem unaffected. That said, although the white nodules quickly receded in accordance with the life cycle of the parasite, a small number of new nodules continue to appear on some fish. Is typical during the first few days of treatment?

Most of my bronze Cryptocoryne wendtii plants melted almost completely soon after the salt was added. My larger green C. wendtii plants are losing a few leaves. Other plants - Anubias, java fern, small swords - don't look worse for wear. Best of luck to all of you!
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Hey guys, i practically did the same thing yall did, per suggestion of the lfs but without the water change.i have a 72 bowfront, with 24 red head tapagos, 12 angels, and 6 clown plecos, with about half the red head showing horrible signs. Anyway, told the worker my situation and the livestocks, he suggested to turn the heater up to 85 and add about half the box of sea salt( box was probably 5x3x1), and should get rid of it in about 2 days. After 2 day, i didn't see much much result so i decided to add another quarter of salt. About 2 days later, i was ich free. So total was 4 day
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Great read, thanks. Quite informative & updated info about a disease that is as old as the aquarium trade itself.

Good to know that if you have a planted tank, you can just let it sit (taking out all fish) and allow the parasite itself to starve to death in a week or so after the temp is turned up. I really didn't want to start throwing chemicals into my heavily & longspent planted tank.




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Great read, thanks. Quite informative & updated info about a disease that is as old as the aquarium trade itself.

Good to know that if you have a planted tank, you can just let it sit (taking out all fish) and allow the parasite itself to starve to death in a week or so after the temp is turned up. I really didn't want to start throwing chemicals into my heavily & longspent planted tank.

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What an amazing write up and phenomenal citations. I'll most likely be adding some salt tonight and continue that for a week or so just to be sure. I love that all the ich myths were discredited in one fell swoop in that article haha

Thanks for the insight pap
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I'm four days into ich treatment in my 20 gallon community tank. I raised the temperature to 84 F, added one tablespoon of aquarium salt per five gallons of water, began dosing Melafix (to prevent secondary infections), and I am changing about 30% of the water daily.

I have noticed no adverse effects on the health of any fish or snails as a result of the treatment. To my surprise, even the newly hatched kribensis fry seem unaffected. That said, although the white nodules quickly receded in accordance with the life cycle of the parasite, a small number of new nodules continue to appear on some fish. Is typical during the first few days of treatment?

Most of my bronze Cryptocoryne wendtii plants melted almost completely soon after the salt was added. My larger green C. wendtii plants are losing a few leaves. Other plants - Anubias, java fern, small swords - don't look worse for wear. Best of luck to all of you!
Not sure if that was meant to be a question at the end of the second paragraph but new spots in the first couple days sounds like it would be normal. The increased water temp speeds up the ich's metabolism and life cycle so the immature parasites expand to the visible "white dot" stage much quicker than they normally would then die off after that.
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Crank heat to 88F for three weeks. I've been doing this for years with consistently excellent results.
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Crank heat to 88F for three weeks. I've been doing this for years with consistently excellent results.
Have you had success with Danios? They tend to prefer cooler water and 88F seems like it would stress them out a lot.
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