BKK Money Pit *Mystery Deaths*

**Betta Maniac** · 01-24-2013, 08:39 PM

Also, I can't ever remember worrying this much about anything without fur.

**antiquefloorman** · 01-30-2013, 06:12 PM

Hey Betta,
All of the breeders overseas I talk to keep their temps as close to 75 degrees F as they can. They tell me it is the perfect temp.
Tim

**Betta Maniac** · 02-04-2013, 09:14 PM

75, huh. Thanks. I'll have to look into it.

**Betta Maniac** · 02-06-2013, 07:35 PM

Well, all is not well in the land of BKK. I’ve lost another one. No idea what the heck is going on. After the first death, I treated with Melafix and Pimafix. All seemed well. Then BAM, another dead one this morning. *sigh*

I guess it’s time to move them to a bare bottom tank of reminerlaized RO water and throw a few CBS in this tank to see if there’s really something wrong with the tank.

And yes, I’ve run all the tests. The water is perfect. The temp is perfect. There’s no discernible reason I can come up with for them to be dropping dead. I thought maybe a bacterial thing, but if it is, its beyond Melafix to deal with.

I’m open to suggestions.

**Rob in Puyallup** · 02-06-2013, 08:07 PM

Sorry about the losses, Betta.

I don't have any experience with these expensive shrimp but have noticed with my crystals that they do much better if I leave their water alone. One tank has Fluval Shrimp substrate, the other UP Shrimp Sand, not sure if that makes a difference.

You wrote that you're using an UV sterilizer. Those will kill the added bacteria supplement so should be turned off when adding them. Would certainly slow down cycling, I'm thinking.

Best of luck!

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**Betta Maniac** · 02-06-2013, 10:12 PM

UV wasn't running when the tank was cycling. It's not running now since I'm treating with Melafix. It's just *VERY* frustrating.

PuddlesAqua · 02-15-2013, 06:58 PM

Any update on how your shrimp are doing?

**Betta Maniac** · 02-21-2013, 04:51 PM

No news is good news. *knock on wood* Hope I'm not cursing myself here, but there have been no further mystery deaths (the berried female with the bad molt died, but there was no real mystery to that one). But no news-worthy events to report either. They’re growing and molting and cruising around. So far they all STILL look male.

**speedie408** · 02-21-2013, 04:57 PM

Glad to hear there's no more deaths Tonda.

Keep in mind that these shrimp are still young adults and with TBs they are extremely hard to sex. The majority of all young females do not develop round abdomens until they actually become berried. Give them some more time. Hopefully there's still some females in your surviving group.

**Betta Maniac** · 02-21-2013, 05:31 PM

*fingers crossed*

BTW, Nick, I just can't even express how beautiful that extreme ruby red/dragon is. I really wasn't interested in getting any of those, and now it's one of my favorites!

**speedie408** · 02-21-2013, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betta Maniac

*fingers crossed*

BTW, Nick, I just can't even express how beautiful that extreme ruby red/dragon is. I really wasn't interested in getting any of those, and now it's one of my favorites!

*LIKE*

01-24-2013, 08:39 PM	#106
Betta Maniac Wanabe BKK Herder (View User Tanks) PTrader: (17/100%) Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: IHella<3Oakland Posts: 2,089	Also, I can't ever remember worrying this much about anything without fur. __________________ BKK Money Pit 20G Long SE Asian Biotope

02-04-2013, 09:14 PM	#108
Betta Maniac Wanabe BKK Herder (View User Tanks) PTrader: (17/100%) Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: IHella<3Oakland Posts: 2,089	75, huh. Thanks. I'll have to look into it. __________________ BKK Money Pit 20G Long SE Asian Biotope

02-06-2013, 07:35 PM	#109
Betta Maniac Wanabe BKK Herder (View User Tanks) PTrader: (17/100%) Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: IHella<3Oakland Posts: 2,089	Well, all is not well in the land of BKK. I’ve lost another one. No idea what the heck is going on. After the first death, I treated with Melafix and Pimafix. All seemed well. Then BAM, another dead one this morning. sigh I guess it’s time to move them to a bare bottom tank of reminerlaized RO water and throw a few CBS in this tank to see if there’s really something wrong with the tank. And yes, I’ve run all the tests. The water is perfect. The temp is perfect. There’s no discernible reason I can come up with for them to be dropping dead. I thought maybe a bacterial thing, but if it is, its beyond Melafix to deal with. I’m open to suggestions. __________________ BKK Money Pit 20G Long SE Asian Biotope

02-06-2013, 08:07 PM	#110
Rob in Puyallup Opae Ula Crazed. (View User Tanks) PTrader: (3/100%) Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Puyallup, WA Posts: 1,253	Re: BKK Money Pit Mystery Deaths Sorry about the losses, Betta. I don't have any experience with these expensive shrimp but have noticed with my crystals that they do much better if I leave their water alone. One tank has Fluval Shrimp substrate, the other UP Shrimp Sand, not sure if that makes a difference. You wrote that you're using an UV sterilizer. Those will kill the added bacteria supplement so should be turned off when adding them. Would certainly slow down cycling, I'm thinking. Best of luck! Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S III using Tapatalk 2 __________________ 35 gal Hex Shrimp and Celestial Pearl Danio ;29 gallon Endler's only;Petco Bookshelf 6.6 gal Crystal Shrimp and Hitchhiking CPD fry tank; Bookshelf 6.6 gal Brackish Opae Ula Shrimp; Fluval Ebi 7.9 gal assorted Shrimp only.; 10 gallon Opae Ula tank, started Nov 21, 2012. Opae Ula, Hawaiian Red Shrimp, SuperShrimp, whatever...Journal Now... I'm out of room!

02-06-2013, 10:12 PM	#111
Betta Maniac Wanabe BKK Herder (View User Tanks) PTrader: (17/100%) Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: IHella<3Oakland Posts: 2,089	UV wasn't running when the tank was cycling. It's not running now since I'm treating with Melafix. It's just VERY frustrating. __________________ BKK Money Pit 20G Long SE Asian Biotope

01-30-2013, 06:12 PM	#107
antiquefloorman Retired Bubble Head (View User Tanks) PTrader: (17/95%) Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Woodbine Ga Posts: 487	Hey Betta, All of the breeders overseas I talk to keep their temps as close to 75 degrees F as they can. They tell me it is the perfect temp. Tim

02-15-2013, 06:58 PM	#112
PuddlesAqua Planted Tank Obsessed (View User Tanks) PTrader: (7/100%) Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 405	Any update on how your shrimp are doing?

02-21-2013, 04:51 PM	#113
Betta Maniac Wanabe BKK Herder (View User Tanks) PTrader: (17/100%) Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: IHella<3Oakland Posts: 2,089	No news is good news. knock on wood Hope I'm not cursing myself here, but there have been no further mystery deaths (the berried female with the bad molt died, but there was no real mystery to that one). But no news-worthy events to report either. They’re growing and molting and cruising around. So far they all STILL look male. __________________ BKK Money Pit 20G Long SE Asian Biotope

02-21-2013, 04:57 PM	#114
speedie408 Canon Pimp #001 (View User Tanks) PTrader: (361/100%) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bay Area, Cali Posts: 7,900	Glad to hear there's no more deaths Tonda. Keep in mind that these shrimp are still young adults and with TBs they are extremely hard to sex. The majority of all young females do not develop round abdomens until they actually become berried. Give them some more time. Hopefully there's still some females in your surviving group. __________________ Canon Pimp Club #001 \| "ADA 120-P" \| Shrimp PIX COLLECTION by speedie408 \| RIP 39g "The Beginning" \| RIP "Variance" 40B collectoritis tank"

02-21-2013, 05:31 PM	#115
Betta Maniac Wanabe BKK Herder (View User Tanks) PTrader: (17/100%) Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: IHella<3Oakland Posts: 2,089	fingers crossed BTW, Nick, I just can't even express how beautiful that extreme ruby red/dragon is. I really wasn't interested in getting any of those, and now it's one of my favorites! __________________ BKK Money Pit 20G Long SE Asian Biotope

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