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Old 02-18-2013, 02:59 AM   #1
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Sulawesi yellow elephant snails?


are they safe for my RCS?
and do they take over the tank pretty fast?
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:45 AM   #2
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I think that sulawesi snails reproduce very slowly. I imagine they'd be safe for RCS but they require hard water and a high temp, so make sure your parameters are in line.
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They needs temps between 78 and 84 F, a pH of 7.5+ and they will eat your plants. They give live birth to one snail per month, so they reproduce slowly.
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aw man... they will eat my plants? ((
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They love eating plants I fed them trimmings
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will they eat all kinds of plants or certain ones?
if so is there any other type of unique snails that would get along with RCS and breed very slow?
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will they eat all kinds of plants or certain ones?
if so is there any other type of unique snails that would get along with RCS and breed very slow?
You could try Pagoda snails. Supposedly, they don't eat plants much as long as they are well fed. They only can breed in brackish water. They are hardy and very unique.

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will they eat all kinds of plants or certain ones?
if so is there any other type of unique snails that would get along with RCS and breed very slow?
Thiara Winteri, they burrow in the substrate like MTS, but only make a baby a month.

They are like a smaller spikey rabbit snail (or you call elephant snail),
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Old 02-20-2013, 02:19 PM   #9
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the pagoda snails how big are they?

and Thiara winter how big? =o

i have MTS and i can never see them in my tank. i want a couple that i can actually see every once in a while haha
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Thiara winteri get to about 1.5 to 2 inches, and they burrow like mts. Not quite as much as mts, but they still spenda good portion of their ttime under the substrate.
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i had pagodas (brotia pagodula) give birth in freshwater, though they were very difficult to keep for any amount of time with much success.

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i had pagodas (brotia pagodula) give birth in freshwater, though they were very difficult to keep for any amount of time with much success.
Cool. That's interesting. I haven't seen mine breed so I thought they were like the Faunus ater snails that need brackish water for larval development.
I have had good survival keeping Pagodas with my rabbit snails under Sulawesi conditions.

I have had no success with the Thiara winteri snails. They have all died on me, in a variety of conditions.
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Yellow Antenna Rabbit snails are considered safe for most plants. As to Pagoda snails, they tend to do best with a high current and oxygen levels in the tank.
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can anyone sell me any of these snails like pagoda or yellow antenna rabbit snails? =o
i would love to get a hold of a couple!
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can anyone sell me any of these snails like pagoda or yellow antenna rabbit snails? =o
i would love to get a hold of a couple!
Yellow Antennas (Tylomelania gemmifera) are very inactive. I wouldn't get those. They'll bore you to death.

I found Pagodas at my local fish store. Maybe yours could order you some.

Bob's Tropical Plants has the Thiara winteri if you wanted to try your hand at those.

Good luck!
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