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Old 02-16-2013, 07:13 PM   #1
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Fertilizer advice


I just finished setting up this tank and am seeking advice regarding a simple fertilizer for the plants while the tank cycles. The tank is a 24" cube (60 gal), fluorite substrate, finnex fugeray 24 led light, no co2. basically set up low light, low tech for a minimum of maintenance.

The tank is lightly planted.
dwarf sagittaria
anubias nana
camboba
water sprite
anacharis

I am looking for a simple product and schedule. Any thoughts appreciated.

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Old 02-16-2013, 07:31 PM   #2
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Honestly to keep it simple just add flourish once a week. Or if you want to be cost effecient, buy dry ferts from Nilocg on here, and does each once a week.

Mon:
(Always on opposite days of the others, you can also dose seachem flourish with this)
CSM+B 1/8 tsp

Tues:
(Dose these at the same time)
K2SO4 1/8 tsp
KNO3 1/2 tsp
KH2PO4 1/8 tsp

Sun:
Water Changes (or top offs, whatever you choose)

When I first got into dry ferts not long ago, I made the mistake of dosing dry with the EI method, and I quickly had to scale that back because I had algae EVERYWHERE!!! This dosing method and routine has done quite well for the pas 3-4 weeks, and I have not had a outbreak since. Also I am dosing a 55 gallon, not really much of a difference from you.
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Here is my specific dosing routine w/ explanations.

Mon:
1 tbs Seachem Equilibrium (I have soft water, so I need this to make up for it), CSM+B 1/8 tsp, 1 Cap of Seachem Flourish (I add this just because I have a bunch of bottles in my fridge)

Tues:
K2SO4 1/8 tsp
KNO3 1/2 tsp
KH2PO4 1/8 tsp

Sun:
Water Changes (More just to clean up the poop and waste)
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Old 02-16-2013, 08:54 PM   #4
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Thanks,

Think i will start with the flourish once a week and see how it goes.
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Old 02-16-2013, 09:00 PM   #5
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Flourish is just a micro nutrient, so just adding it wouldnt give you the complete spectrum of needed ferts.

You still need Nitrogen, Potassium, and Phosphporus, and maybe Iron.

I think you'd be better off with dry ferts. All those Seachem ferts can get expensive.

Get a few small plastic containers and pre-measure the dry ferts for the week. I do this on water change days (Sunday). You can add the macro ferts all together and just dump them in the tank on the proper days. It's super fast. I dip a little bit of tank water into the contaner and get it diluted somewhat, but alot of people just dump dry. On the other 2 days, I just dip my spoon into the Plantex and dose, and I grab 5mL of Iron out of a premade solution from the powdered Iron Chelate 13%.
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Old 02-17-2013, 03:29 PM   #6
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This is new to me so I was wondering where I would get the dry ferts? Thanks
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Old 02-17-2013, 05:06 PM   #7
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I bought 1 lb. of KNO3 and KH2PO4 a year and a half ago and still have alot here:

http://greenleafaquariums.com/aquarium-fertilizer.html

Also a good read on fert schedule and amounts:

http://www.sudeepmandal.com/hobbies/...singfertilizer
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Old 02-17-2013, 06:09 PM   #8
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There's a user right here on the forums that sells them

send a PM to nilocg and he'll hook you up.
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Agreed! Thats where I got mine. If you want an easy schedule and dosing routine, just follow what i posted earlier in this thread. Its a great start for dosing, if you need to add more you can. But I think for a 60 gallon, lightly planted aquarium this would be perfect. Nilocg will take care of you for sure.
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Thanks for the information. I appreciate it.
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Thanks for the information. I appreciate it.
Absolutely. I have already made the mistake of adding too much fertilizer, and I don't want you to do the same. Also we have the same size and type of setup. You will have to add more than just flourish though, it'll get you by till you get more ferts.

Just some advice though, heavy root feeders like swords and crypts need root tabs. These are just little tabs that you place in the substrate near the roots. You can get these from any petco or petsmart...but I would also look into dry ferts from nilocg on here. Liquid ferts will really become expensive for you over time. Dry ferts are crazy cheap too! With how much he gave me, I will have enough to last a year and some change and it all was only $20. Sure beats flourish for $16 a bottle!
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Old 02-25-2013, 04:28 PM   #12
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Here is my specific dosing routine w/ explanations.

Mon:
1 tbs Seachem Equilibrium (I have soft water, so I need this to make up for it), CSM+B 1/8 tsp, 1 Cap of Seachem Flourish (I add this just because I have a bunch of bottles in my fridge)

Tues:
K2SO4 1/8 tsp
KNO3 1/2 tsp
KH2PO4 1/8 tsp

Sun:
Water Changes (More just to clean up the poop and waste)



Not to thread jack but regarding water changes , is it required to do a water change on Sun or I can do without?
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:55 AM   #13
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you will get to much of a build up over time. i think wet has a calc to see how much junk in your tank


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Old 02-27-2013, 04:07 PM   #14
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Received the ferts and am going to ease in as my fishless cycle finishes. Everything looks happy except my anacharas, but my water may be too warm for that plant at 78 degrees.
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