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Old 02-13-2013, 01:41 PM   #16
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Acclimated The clown killi pair are hiding. When transferring the female jumped onto the floor from my net, the small dish was on the ground she only fell a few inches but flopped on the tile for a good few seconds before I finally grasped her after much trouble and got her back in the water, no adverse effects so far, no external injuries, but before I left the tank earlier she was wedged in some plant roots and not moving even when I tapped. Not good :/ She was swimming around actively before. The male is doing well though, both very shy. I'll know at around 1pm today (2/13/13) whether or not the female is okay. I hope so. Do fish normally wedge themselves in plants get stuck and die?

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Old 02-13-2013, 04:26 PM   #17
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Sorry, I forgot to upload it, here's the FTS right after acclimation. I also trimmed stick up roots yesterday.
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Old 02-14-2013, 01:49 PM   #18
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So after getting some free snails from the lfs, i dropped them in the tank and everything went nuts. The guppies were trying to eat them, My puffers ate like three or four and it's really cool to watch, and my pygmy gourami ate two and was actually going after them more than my puffers. Are pygmy gouramis snail eaters?
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:49 AM   #19
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Alright, tank will be half to three quarters drained, everything including fish left inside and taken home (10 min drive in styrofoam box - Minnesota Winters...). Deciding between two lights. A 12" Finnex FugeRay, or a UP Aqua UA-F17 6.69 Inch Flexible LED. I'm torn between the two and if I don't get any input I'll just have to choose. I like the look of the UP and it would look very stylish on my pico, but I'm worried about light output and whether or not it could support crytocyrene, hairgrass, (medium to high light) etc.

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Old 02-18-2013, 09:03 PM   #20
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Thanks for all the help

A 12" Finnex FugeRay is on it's way.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:36 PM   #21
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So lot's of news. Moved the tank home by draining it halfway and putting it in a styrofoam cooler. Found my nannostomus dried up (jumped over the weekend). Got it home everything set up. Got a pair of Scarlet Badis and Australe Golden Killis. Male Golden Killi jumped out and dried like a rock. Not getting anything more until i make an acrylic cover. My Finnex 12" FugeRay came yesterday. Replaced the fluorescent. I LOVE IT. Malabar pea puffer pair were getting too aggressive since they got comfortable and established, taking chunks out of nearly errbody. I put them in a separate tank. I moved out my female betta too. She was pretty torn up from the damn pea puffers. Male scarlet badis was dead on a leaf in the tank 10 min ago All of my parameters are excellent, it's the fish that are driving eachother nuts. I'm assuming the male scarlet badis died because of the stress of getting picked on by the sparkling gourami, he's the tank bully now that the puffers are out. I also added an Anubias and Chinese Waterfern 3 days ago.

Current Livestock:

Clown Killifish male
Panda Guppy Pair
Scarlet Badis female
Sparkling Gourami Male
Fancy Plecostomus baby
Australe Golden Killifish female

Separate Tank:

Malabar Pea Puffer Pair

Separate dishes:

female betta
male betta

Died or jumped out so far:

Actinic blue male betta
Dwarf Nannostomus pencilfish
Male Australe Golden Killi
Male scarlet badis

FTS with the fluorescent 3 days ago


Male australe golden killi (the one that jumped


Scarlet Badis pair


Female betta, female [anda guppy, male clown killi, and neon


Male scarlet badis and female betta who loved to wedge herself into strange places before I moved her into a separate bowl to heal her fins.


Those of you who keep bettas know that it's normal for them to wedge themselves in strange places and be content hahaha


Same with some killis. My fish love to wedge themselves in the grass in the back of the tank. He didn't jump after this, he was swimming around and eating and happy before i went to bed and found him later the next day.


My killi pair. Only the female now


Finnex FugeRay 12"


Lots of light and fits the tank nicely. ooking more amano already


Male and female betta in the bowls in front, with the pea puffer pair in the tank in the background. The pea puffers are eating better by themselves anyways.


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Old 02-22-2013, 10:03 PM   #22
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Very nice, though I think you may have overstocked the tank... just a thought.
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I think this tank is extremely overstocked.. If you'd like to discuss this more, I'd be happy to. But I won't go interjecting more than I have to.

I think most people who looked at this should have informed you of the amount of stocking here was a bad decision, especially pea puffers, which while small, still need about 5 gallons each.

I could go on, but like I said, I will not.
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:39 PM   #25
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I think this tank is extremely overstocked.. If you'd like to discuss this more, I'd be happy to. But I won't go interjecting more than I have to.

I think most people who looked at this should have informed you of the amount of stocking here was a bad decision, especially pea puffers, which while small, still need about 5 gallons each.

I could go on, but like I said, I will not.
No please do, I won't be offended. I was told that the pea puffers would be perfect in a 3g. I'm not listening to WOF anymore though. The saleslady seemed more knowledgeable on plants than the fish and she told me they were eating flake which was also hard to believe. The fish are now settled at the moment and not fin nipping or agitated anymore with the puffers gone. I may also trade out my sparkling gourami or panda guppy pair. But yes, I was coming to that bad conclusion :/ Overexcitement + overcaffineation = overstocking. - that's going in my signature! I'm assuming jumping is a sign of overstocking?
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Old 02-22-2013, 10:56 PM   #26
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"Male scarlet badis was dead on a leaf in the tank 10 min ago All of my parameters are excellent, it's the fish that are driving eachother nuts."

Current Livestock:

Clown Killifish male
Panda Guppy Pair
Scarlet Badis female
Sparkling Gourami Male
Fancy Plecostomus baby
Australe Golden Killifish female

Separate Tank:

Malabar Pea Puffer Pair

Separate dishes:

female betta
male betta

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That's the right attitude to take. So while this may be harsh, try to take it in the best and most constructive way possible.

I once overstocked a tank too, and I've never felt worse about the Bolivian ram I killed.

So...

First and foremost, I don't know how you cycled, or when you cycled, but you say your parameters are perfect. On other sites more devoted to fish, this wouldn't be acceptable. You should post detailed parameter checks and exactly how you checked them.

Next... On stocking in general. Wow -- you HAVE to read everything you can about species of animals you buy before you buy them. I took four months to prepare myself and a tank in the best way possible for crystal red shrimp. I read literally every web page in the top 50 google pages and almost every thread I could find on them. These are your pets and are a major commitment.

Next -- on deaths. When something dies you HAVE to assess everything in your tank. Was the death natural? What can I fix. None of the deaths in your tank were natural, I assume. They were all stress related. Fish don't jump usually without some reason. Some do, granted, but yours almost assuredly were stressed to death.

Next -- tank size. Three gallons is tiny. When you consider the millions of gallons these fish naturally live in, it should be a scary thought to have so many in such a small containment. Even bettas which live in "tiny rice paddies" (which for some reason merits their captivity in tiny cups in stores) are living in thousand gallon rice paddies.

Next-- compatibility. With research I mentioned earlier, you'll find that certain species are never meant to live together. Bettas rip up things with flowy tails, puffers are territorial, guppies breed out of control and are relatively stupid when it comes to territory, scarlet badis are super sensitive to water parameters and stocking levels, clown killifish need a minimum of 20 gallon tanks, pencil fish need surface area galore to be happy and every fish-type bottom feeder known to man is too big for a 3 gallon, let alone a Pleco, which even if a BN Plec will crazily outgrow a three gallon.

Each tank you do you should have stocking in mind before hand, check it over with people who know about fish, and then proceed to stock based on parameters, space and research.

All my knowledge of fish comes from glancing at threads, liking a fish then googling it.

I advise you to return everything but 3-6 sparkling gourami and some cherry shrimp. That's a perfect and well balanced 3G tank.
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:19 PM   #27
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So, lot's of things have changed. First and foremost, I cut a pretty nice DIY acrylic top for my pico. No more jumping fish. I'll post a better picture of it later today. Pea puffers have been traded out (already were separated from main tank), sparkling gourami and panda guppies have been traded out too. My male scarlet badis and male australe killi have been replaced. Tank is very roomy now. Regarding the pleco and golden killi pair, when they get bigger the pleco will be transferred to my 750g and the killifish pair to my 20g long.

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Scarlet Badis pair
Neon Tetra pair
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:04 PM   #28
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What I meant by "excellent parameters"

Temperature: 74-76 F
pH: 6.8
dH: 4
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 1
Ammonia: 0
Chlorine: 0
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:16 PM   #29
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I still think you are overstocked. I'd pull the neons. Even after that you are pushing it.
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:23 PM   #30
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You should consider chili rasboras for that size tank.
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