LOL - weird question about pantyhose and aquarium water
Planted Tank Forums
Your Tanks Image Hosting *Tank Tracker * Plant Profiles Fish Profiles Planted Tank Guide Photo Gallery Articles

Go Back   The Planted Tank Forum > General Planted Tank Forums > General Planted Tank Discussion


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-26-2013, 05:20 AM   #1
driftwoodhunter
Planted Tank Guru
 
PTrader: (23/100%)
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Christiansburg, Va
Posts: 2,756
Question

LOL - weird question about pantyhose and aquarium water


Ok, here's the deal;

I have some Seachem bio media, and I want to divide it up & place it in cut up pantyhose sections, then put it in my 125. The reason being, I want to use those parcels in a few months to help me seed newly set up tanks with nitrifying bacteria. I want to put the pantyhose bags behind my Hamburg Mattenfilter so they aren't in view of the main tank. Being in pantyhose bags will make it easy for me to siphon around them when I do water changes, too (so much mulm collects behind the HMF. If the media was loose, I couldn't siphon the bare bottom).

So the question is, I am planning on using fishnet pantyhose because the water flow will be so good through the open mesh (haha - finally, I'll have a sexy tank!) Does anyone know if the dye used in making pantyhose leaches into the water? Can it possibly have toxic properties that can harm fish?

Thanks!
__________________
The Fraternity of Dirt # 7 - Daughter of the Dirt - Canon Club #018
Twin 29g Dirt Tanks on an Iron Stand - DIY 3D Backgrounds
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/ta...stand-pic.html
The Behemoth - 125 dirt tank
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=199772
driftwoodhunter is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 01-26-2013, 06:16 AM   #2
MABJ
Invert Warrior
 
MABJ's Avatar
 
PTrader: (12/100%)
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: NY
Posts: 3,509
Default LOL - weird question about pantyhose and aquarium water

I probably wouldn't use fishnet stockings lol. I used normal pantyhose and nothing bad happened. It hasn't broken down on me either.

I will say this seems like a lot of trouble when you could just use $5 ceramic media bagged or unbagged
__________________
Check out my tanks:
Mark's Almost ADA |18" Long DBP Tank |10" Tall CRS Spec | .5 Gallon cube | Wabi-Kusa Thread |

New to shrimp? Need help? Check out these threads:
|Essential tools to buy|List of inverts|Sage advice|

Mark A Belcher Junior, a proud member of the DBP Club.
MABJ is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-26-2013, 06:42 AM   #3
driftwoodhunter
Planted Tank Guru
 
PTrader: (23/100%)
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Christiansburg, Va
Posts: 2,756
Default

Ok, it's good to know regular pantyhose will work - I didn't know if the water flow would be sufficient through it.

What I have is Seachem Matrix. I bought it because I got a really good deal on it (60% off with free shipping) on Black Friday, and I bought the 4L tub. I'm sure I could have gone with something cheaper - frankly I wish I had remembered at the time about the Dollar Store plastic pot scrubbers people use! Matrix seems to get good reviews so I'm ok with it. I have enough to add it to all my tanks, but two won't be set up for a while yet. I figured I could put some in stockings in an established tank now, and later it will give those new tanks a head start once I get them up & running. If it's unbagged, it will be too difficult to siphon the mulm out from under it. This way I can simply lift the bags out of the way when I siphon.

So I'll skip the fishnet hose (Darn. There go all the wild stories I was going to tell my friends). Thanks for the help!
__________________
The Fraternity of Dirt # 7 - Daughter of the Dirt - Canon Club #018
Twin 29g Dirt Tanks on an Iron Stand - DIY 3D Backgrounds
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/ta...stand-pic.html
The Behemoth - 125 dirt tank
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=199772
driftwoodhunter is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-26-2013, 06:44 AM   #4
MABJ
Invert Warrior
 
MABJ's Avatar
 
PTrader: (12/100%)
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: NY
Posts: 3,509
Default LOL - weird question about pantyhose and aquarium water

No problem! I'm not saying you can't or shouldn't use fishnet, but seeing as many people use normal nylons without much strife, I usually take the trodden path.
__________________
Check out my tanks:
Mark's Almost ADA |18" Long DBP Tank |10" Tall CRS Spec | .5 Gallon cube | Wabi-Kusa Thread |

New to shrimp? Need help? Check out these threads:
|Essential tools to buy|List of inverts|Sage advice|

Mark A Belcher Junior, a proud member of the DBP Club.
MABJ is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-26-2013, 01:04 PM   #5
Mahlady
Algae Grower
 
Mahlady's Avatar
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Northern IL.
Posts: 84
Default

I added Purigen to my tanks about 3 weeks ago, had to use 3 "knee hi" pantyhose since the granules were really fine. No problems yet, and the only ones I had around were black ones.....
__________________
Taking life one day at a time
Mahlady is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-26-2013, 01:33 PM   #6
HD Blazingwolf
Planted Tank Guru
 
HD Blazingwolf's Avatar
 
PTrader: (8/100%)
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 4,907
Default

it should still be nylon either way

just wash it a couple times without soap and u should be straight

seachem's bio media is pretty heavy, a gravel vacuum is probably not strong enough to suck it up if u do decide to leave it open
__________________
HD Blazingwolf is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-26-2013, 03:21 PM   #7
driftwoodhunter
Planted Tank Guru
 
PTrader: (23/100%)
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Christiansburg, Va
Posts: 2,756
Default

Thanks everyone - I might even pick up a few media bags at my LFS, but that's a waste of money...I bought a few pair of nylon knee highs for my Purigen (that I haven't used yet) and I think I'll try it in my 40B. That poor tank has virtually no plants at all, and it could really use the media...
__________________
The Fraternity of Dirt # 7 - Daughter of the Dirt - Canon Club #018
Twin 29g Dirt Tanks on an Iron Stand - DIY 3D Backgrounds
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/ta...stand-pic.html
The Behemoth - 125 dirt tank
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=199772
driftwoodhunter is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-26-2013, 06:05 PM   #8
Diana
Planted Tank Guru
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Contra Costa CA
Posts: 6,403
Default

I have used cut up nylons for many years. They do not leach color, and they do not disintegrate.

I have heard of problems using them with Purigen, though. Purigen can be rejuvenated with bleach, and the stockings do not hold up well to bleach.

Other materials I have used:
Food mesh bags that I buy onions, avocados, or other things in.
Problem: The softer they are the better they fit into the filter space, but the holes deform, stretch, and the media falls out. This is only a minor annoyance, since only the largest ceramic bio-noodles fit in these bags.

Manufactured media bags: Too stiff to properly fill the space in the filter. Too much water flows around rather than through.
Diana is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-26-2013, 06:21 PM   #9
driftwoodhunter
Planted Tank Guru
 
PTrader: (23/100%)
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Christiansburg, Va
Posts: 2,756
Default

Thanks everyone ~

Today I put some Purigen in a doubled-up knee-high for my 125 (had medicated the tank and have done several w/c, but thought the extra effort couldn't hurt). No problems with any particles falling out, even when I squeezed the hose to test it. When I have some extra $$ I'll buy the proper pouches for the Purigen so I can bleach and recharge it.

I also put a single knee-high with the Matrix in it in both my 40B and my 125. In the 125 it's behind my Hamburg Mattenfilter, in the 40B it's resting against the sponge of the powerhead. I know Matrix works best if in a canister or HOB, but these tanks have neither. I still think there will be some benefit to having it in the tanks. I must say I felt like I was stuffing coal into Christmas stockings when filling the Matrix - lol - I don't know why stockings full of coal for bad kids made me think of my cats...
__________________
The Fraternity of Dirt # 7 - Daughter of the Dirt - Canon Club #018
Twin 29g Dirt Tanks on an Iron Stand - DIY 3D Backgrounds
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/ta...stand-pic.html
The Behemoth - 125 dirt tank
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=199772
driftwoodhunter is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-26-2013, 06:44 PM   #10
Diana
Planted Tank Guru
 
PTrader: (0/0%)
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Contra Costa CA
Posts: 6,403
Default

It is even more weird stuffing half a knee hi full of peat moss!
Diana is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-26-2013, 06:50 PM   #11
driftwoodhunter
Planted Tank Guru
 
PTrader: (23/100%)
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Christiansburg, Va
Posts: 2,756
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Diana View Post
It is even more weird stuffing half a knee hi full of peat moss!
haha - that's probably next for me...glad I have friends here, my friends at home think I'm really weird with what I do to the tanks. Most people say "you put REAL plants in your aquarium? Why??? Won't they kill the fish?" lol

The next most often heard. "You put those snails in there on purpose?!?"
__________________
The Fraternity of Dirt # 7 - Daughter of the Dirt - Canon Club #018
Twin 29g Dirt Tanks on an Iron Stand - DIY 3D Backgrounds
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/ta...stand-pic.html
The Behemoth - 125 dirt tank
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=199772
driftwoodhunter is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-26-2013, 06:54 PM   #12
HD Blazingwolf
Planted Tank Guru
 
HD Blazingwolf's Avatar
 
PTrader: (8/100%)
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 4,907
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by driftwoodhunter View Post
haha - that's probably next for me...glad I have friends here, my friends at home think I'm really weird with what I do to the tanks. Most people say "you put REAL plants in your aquarium? Why??? Won't they kill the fish?" lol

The next most often heard. "You put those snails in there on purpose?!?"

yeah my neighborhood thinks im weird
__________________
HD Blazingwolf is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-26-2013, 06:56 PM   #13
driftwoodhunter
Planted Tank Guru
 
PTrader: (23/100%)
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Christiansburg, Va
Posts: 2,756
Default

Misunderstood geniuses, all of us...
__________________
The Fraternity of Dirt # 7 - Daughter of the Dirt - Canon Club #018
Twin 29g Dirt Tanks on an Iron Stand - DIY 3D Backgrounds
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/ta...stand-pic.html
The Behemoth - 125 dirt tank
http://www.plantedtank.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=199772
driftwoodhunter is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-26-2013, 10:09 PM   #14
MABJ
Invert Warrior
 
MABJ's Avatar
 
PTrader: (12/100%)
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: NY
Posts: 3,509
Default LOL - weird question about pantyhose and aquarium water

There's a thread on the questions we get asked.

On the snails question.. Head on.. I was informed last year about how my snails would kill and overrun my tank by someone whose credentials were "My dad keeps fish tanks."

Shaking my head as I type this.
__________________
Check out my tanks:
Mark's Almost ADA |18" Long DBP Tank |10" Tall CRS Spec | .5 Gallon cube | Wabi-Kusa Thread |

New to shrimp? Need help? Check out these threads:
|Essential tools to buy|List of inverts|Sage advice|

Mark A Belcher Junior, a proud member of the DBP Club.
MABJ is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-26-2013, 10:33 PM   #15
Shangrila
Planted Member
 
PTrader: (1/100%)
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: New York City
Posts: 236
Default

I use the regular stockings in my tanks and the fishnets for my wife.
Shangrila is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the The Planted Tank Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:07 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Planted Tank LLC 2012