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Old 01-21-2013, 04:30 AM   #1
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Scuba Scott's Aquatic Jungle (NEW PICS (and FISH) 01/27)


Hello everyone! I'm a new guy to this forum and the world of planted tanks. I used to keep all sorts of reefs back in the 90s (had 8 at one time), and used to set up salt tanks for businesses (and one movie set) however I got out of the hobby when my diving career started. Now that I'm back (having a little one is a great reason to "give a science lesson", I've decided to steer clear of salt (for environmental reasons) and give plants a shot.

Budget wasn't huge (little one), however I was able to convert a old AGA 20H into a nice little tank. Albeit not as impressive as some of the others on this forum, however I'm happy with it thus far so I figured I'd share.

Equipment, 20H, Aquaclear 50 HOB, DIY CO2, Flourite/gravel mix (for cool look), 3 x 23 watt 5000k CFLs from Lowes, and one chunk of Mopani wood.

Here is what I started with, along with a closeup of the gravel. I tried Floramax but it spiked my dKH and PH badly, so it's waiting for another purpose and the Flourite mix went in. Frankly, I feel like it worked out because I much prefer the look of the mix.

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It was time for some plants and a couple of fish to cycle the tank with, so I headed out to my LFS and saw what they had. I picked up 4 glowlight tetras (love those little guys), some Dwarf Hair Grass, some watersprite (I think?) and a couple freebee (because they're in bad shape) pigmy chain swords (again I think?) (anyone feel free to straighten me out on the plant species)

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As you can see, I ended up putting the light on a couple strips of wood, so give it some air space for cooling. Also, the Mopani wood went in after being boiled 11 times (no orange water!). Most importantly I started up my DIY CO2 (this is where the "science" excuse comes in). As a makeshift reactor, I just stuck the tubing into the intake of my Aquaclear and have had great results. In fact, I picked up a little Elite submersible power filter as a "improved" reactor but found it caused too many distracting bubbles, so I updated the HOB method by inserting the bubble line into the side of the intake tube. With this method I find I have consistent 25-30ppm (based on PH and dKH) day and night; far better than what I got with all those bubbles. And since the intake interface is only 2" below the surface, I have no DIY back pressure (or lack thereof) issues at all.

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I then did the unthinkable and bought some more plants at Petco (I know, I know) The sad thing is I'm not really sure what they are (corals I know, plants, I am still clueless). I do know that they arrived 3 days prior, and seem to be doing EXTREMELY well. I think I've got bacopa, hygrow of some sort and a couple of swords. (positive IDs would be helpful)

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I have no clue what this is (below), but I dig it!
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I use two 5 hour photoperiods per day, with an airstone running in the dark periods. I'm dosing Flourish Comprehensive, and just put in root tabs. I seem to have complete consistency (for now) with CO2, and my plants are pearling and growing at an alarming rate. I'm actually shocked how fast they are growing. The sprite has grown 4 inches in 2 days and one of my swords has a new 5 inch leaf in a day and a half!!!!!

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Thanks for reading! As things progress, I'll keep this updated as well as continue to pick everyone's brains for tips and hopefully share some successes.

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Old 01-21-2013, 05:09 AM   #2
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Very good looking tank.

The right most rosete plant is an Amazon sword. The one next to it looks to be an Anubias. If you have the rhizome in the gravel pull it out and place it on top of the gravel. It will most likely rot if left in the gravel.

The tall one is watersprite and the others around it are Bacopa. Not sure what the other on is, but it looks pretty and I hope it is not a terrestrial plant. Love the flowers on it.

IME Petco can get some decent plants if you know what to look for.
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:18 AM   #3
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Pretty sweet looking tank. I like it.
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Old 01-21-2013, 05:20 AM   #4
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Thanks for the feedback. I do have the rhizome above the gravel. Only the roots are buried. I figured that if it had chlorophyll (it's green), it probably should be exposed to light. I don't know of many plants that waste chlorophyll underground, so I figured should leave it exposed.

The flowering plant is a mystery, but it was $2.59, so if it doesn't make it, it's not a tragedy.

Thanks for the IDs! It's a learning process for sure! Petco didn't have tags on all but some of the stock (ironically, the tagged ones I already knew)
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Old 01-21-2013, 06:04 AM   #5
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From what I can see, the flowering plant kind of looks like a bunch of emersed growth of Rotala Rotundifolia similar to what I got a while back. I could quite possibly be 100% wrong though

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Old 01-21-2013, 11:50 AM   #6
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Thanks Skywhitney. It looks similar to me. What's that in the bottom right of your picture? I like it!
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Old 01-21-2013, 02:55 PM   #7
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Thanks Skywhitney. It looks similar to me. What's that in the bottom right of your picture? I like it!
Didipilis Diandra. It's a cool plant, with regular trimmings mine got super bushy.
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:07 PM   #8
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It looks really great bushy like that. I'd like to get some glosso (if I can find it) for the big "beach" off to the left, but I've heard it takes over. Ideally the front will fill in with hair grass and the beach to the left will be covered with glosso. Or perhaps just more DHG. I'd like no substrate exposed when it's done, keeping things trimmed to create an open water area in front and to the left.

The local selection is pretty bad (and EXPENSIVE). I've seen some online retailers with seemingly good stock and great prices, but the shipping is murder. Actually shipping in weather like this would be murder. Any tips on where to score some DHG or glosso on the cheap?
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:16 PM   #9
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The swords plants with OVER take your tank in no time. I really recommend taking them out before they get too establish and grow gigantic.
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:13 PM   #10
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Do amazon swords spread that quickly? Or are you talking about the chain swords? If it's the latter, I actually dig the idea, as long as I can keep them from killing other plants.
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Old 01-21-2013, 09:30 PM   #11
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for the diy co2 i found that using the hagen elite mini underwater filter was awsome and it worked well in a 10 so sure if it was put mid way up the side of the tank it would reach across the width and help with the co2 and wouldnt lose any like when is flows into the tank from the hob. tank looks really good so far keep up the work

this is what i used found it at petco
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swords can get huge but in my experience they don't create new plants quickly if at all. The Amazon sword I had reached about 24" so yeah they can take over due to shear size but if you keep them trimmed you're golden.
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How does one trim an amazon sword? Cut leaves partially or just remove the longest leaves leaving the shorter/younger ones? Seems like the latter would be more attractive.
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You got it. Just trim the leaves as close to the crown as possible.

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Old 01-23-2013, 03:13 AM   #15
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Ok, I know I'm a dork. I can admit that and have actually learned to embrace it. So here goes..........

I HAVE ROOTS!
I think I've gotten to the "ROOT" of the problem!
Is that reggae,..... no man it's the "ROOTS"!
I've been "ROOTing" around here and have found lots of good info!
"ROOTin" tootin!
Might have myself a "ROOT" beer!

My dwarf hair grass has started to root and send up new shoots. I'm beside myself with giddiness! Success!!! (so when do I have to mow?)

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Here's the mystery plant. Any other votes?

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Tons of pearling going on!

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Is this hygrow in the middle of the frame?

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The Amazon Sword is growing like wildfire!

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Here's the wide view..

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Thanks for tuning in!!!!
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